Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-06 Thread Stephan Richter
On Monday 06 February 2006 01:15, Brad Allen wrote: By new website, do you mean a Zope 3 advocacy site, or a general documentation site? Making a separate site for advocacy seems like a no-brainer (ala Pythonology.org), but the documentation site is another matter. Have the Zope 3 core

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-05 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 04 February 2006 14:00, Brad Allen wrote: I won't have any time to volunteer for such a project for several weeks, but I could do it during the upcoming Zope 3 sprint at PyCon (my skill is not great enough to contribute to Zope 3 source code, but I can work on documentation and/or

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-05 Thread Brad Allen
At 6:11 AM -0500 2/5/06, Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 04 February 2006 14:00, Brad Allen wrote: I won't have any time to volunteer for such a project for several weeks, but I could do it during the upcoming Zope 3 sprint at PyCon (my skill is not great enough to contribute to Zope 3

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-04 Thread Brad Allen
Here's example of someone who the Zope site has chased off: http://online.effbot.org/#20060203 Excerpt: (And I'm not so sure about Zope, really . It feels stuck in 1998, way too often. Reading zope.org is like discovering that you clicked on the wrong elevator button, and ended up in a

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-04 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 14:40:56 -, Graham Stratton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with those who have said that Zope3 should have its own website. If our aim is to make it clear to people that this is something new, then that site needs a completely different design to the existing Zope

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-03 Thread Max M
Martin Aspeli wrote: On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:12:27 -, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, I feel very strongly that built Zope version 3 and nothing more or less. And I feel that a name change would betray me and my intentions. Well, Joel didn't suggest a name

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-03 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 06:17:49 -0800, Benji York [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW: zope3.org and zope3.com are owned by Zope Corp. and I would assume are being transfered to the Foundation. zope3.net and zope3.info appear to be controlled by (different) domain squatters. ICANN mediation would

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 20:42:25 -, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:01, Martin Aspeli wrote: Philipp W and others have commented on Zope 3's utter lack of marketing   (anyone been to zope.org lately?) and how it is probably hurting its   adoption.

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 02 February 2006 15:48, Martin Aspeli wrote: I am pretty sure there is a SOAP implementation for Zope 3 and it is in svn.zope.org. You missed my point (unless that was dry humour)... With all the discussion about the Cubed project today, I guess I have not much humor left in

[Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Martin Aspeli
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 21:12:27 -, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having said that, I feel very strongly that built Zope version 3 and nothing more or less. And I feel that a name change would betray me and my intentions. Well, Joel didn't suggest a name change, he suggested

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Ron Bickers
On Thu February 2 2006 16:05, Stephan Richter wrote: Yeah, but honestly I don't care. If people choose a technology on name recognition and not on technical merit, then it is their bad. However, I question the RoR hype. I wonder whether big companies seriously considering it; it has

Re: [Zope3-Users] Re: Re: Please Guido, pick me, pick me!

2006-02-02 Thread Shane Hathaway
Ron Bickers wrote: Today, I see the mess that a Zope 2 site can turn in to, so I started looking at Zope 3 again. The release announcements say it's ready for production use, but the website has no promotion of it whatsoever. You have to dig several levels deep to see any mention that it's