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 From the Editor:

by Tim DiChiara, Editor

Your thoughts on the re-birth of Ingres continue to flow into my Inbox.

A few weeks ago, I asked for your thoughts about the newly open-sourced Ingres. The response was immediate and voluminous. Ingres fans came out of the virtual woodwork to voice their support for the venerable DBMS.

Here is some more of your feedback:

  • Erich S. writes: "I worked with Ingres from the late 80's to the mid-90's, most of that time as a DBA. It was a wonderful database and for the most part during that time light -- years ahead of Oracle in terms of features and quality of platform. In particular it had a cost-based optimizer years before Oracle. On the other hand, it had page-level locking long after Oracle had row-level locks; many folks believe this was the downfall of Ingres. I doubt it is that simple, but perhaps has more to do with good technology always losing against good marketing, a theme demonstrated over in over in the computer industry."

  • Gregory W. writes: "We have used Ingres on our 24/7 system for the last 6 years (running on Solaris) and in that time we have never had a downtime greater than 4 hours, using only a part time DBA (1 day a week) because the database is so robust."

  • Marc S. writes: "Ingres has good SQL support, a great B-tree table structure, and a good documentation set. It will certainly get a lot of interest among open source developers because it's a strong dbms, from the ground up...[However,] OpenROAD is far behind Java and C#...and it's IDE (aka the Workbench) is so contra-productive, you'd better hope that you never have to use it."

  • Jon G. writes: " If I was looking to install an enterprise level DBMS into a new environment, would I choose Ingres over Oracle? Yes, without hesitation, unless the business model demanded a particular feature that Oracle had an advantage. Ingres may have been left behind during its ASK ownership and the early years under CA but those that have stuck with it are about to reap the rewards - low cost ownership with high quality productivity! Oracle will have to watch Ingres carefully over the next 2 years."

  • Chris W. writes: "To date, "open source" has largely been synonymous with "Linux". I believe CA's open sourcing of Ingres on any platform will enhance the open source movement, which will undoubtedly further raise the level of acceptance of open source in the boardrooms around the world."

  • Disk G. writes: "I must admit to not having the pleasure of working with Ingres in the past. On the other hand, if there's something that can give MySQL a spanking I'm all for it. It gets under my skin when someone puts a pile of trash on the table & tries to convince everyone that it's gold just because it slides easier."

There is little doubt that there is a wellspring of anti-Big 3 sentiment out there, waiting to be tapped by the likes of CA, Sybase, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Progress, and others. For more information, check our our Featured Topic this week, which lists some of the recent news, analyses, tips, and expert advice we've amassed on the "best of the rest."

Till next week, Tim


 Featured Topic:

Beyond the Big 3
by Tim DiChiara, Senior Site Editor

There is life beyond the big three DBMS vendors! Sybase, MySQL, and others have found significant niches in enterprise IT. Our collection of news, tips, and expert advice has all the info you need about the "best of the rest."

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 Expert Technical Advice:

Featured Expert Rudy Limeback, Web and SQL Design Consultant, r937.com

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Rudy has worked with commercial databases since the mid-1970's, starting with IDMS, a Codasyl network system, and progressing through IBM's DB2 and Microsoft's SQL Server relational databases. He has developed data warehouses and transactional databases, always with an emphasis on making them easy to use for developers and end users alike. He specializes in writing SQL statements that are simple and easy to maintain. Rudy now operates r937.com, developing databases for use with dynamic Web sites. Ask him your tough SQL questions!
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