On Thu, Aug 09, 2001 at 10:46:18AM -0400, Christopher Wong wrote:
> Powertools CD will gone from Red Hat 7.2. I like Powertools, because 
> there are packages from it that I would hate to build from scratch due 
> to sheer size or their many library dependencies.  I also like to know 
> that the packages will be maintained, updated and bug-fixed. Right now, 
> it looks like a number of packages I use -- dosemu, cyrus-imapd, 
> postfix (note to Exim users: it's gone too) and xanim -- are not in 
> Roswell. In addition, I was planning to use the bugzilla package: it's 
> gone too. In short, there are a whole bunch of packages that are 
> implicitly deprecated and will be orphaned. 

While I love RedHat, this is my principal gripe with RedHat as a
distribution.  Commercial vendors generate rpm packages for RedHat, but
RedHat contrib has, AFAIK, fallen by the wayside.  I'd be willing to
package things that I use (hell, I do it now by hacking up PLD and
Mandrake Cooker SRPMS and adding "rh" to the pkg version), but my time
to do much more than package them, upload, and field basic questions is
highly constrained.

I've been looking at Conectiva's RPM support for apt.  PLD is now
using this (and I've noticed that RedHat is taking advantage of some
of PLD's packaging work ...), so I'd like to get it set up in such a
way that I can grab the SRPMS from other distros, build them against
my install, and install them.  Right now there are minor RPM nits, like
differences in macros (e.g., tmpdir vs. _tmppath) that need to be
unified.  It's not hard, just a PITA.

The interview with Bero the other day alluded to him working on
contrib; does anyone have any information about this, because if it is
done right, one could move fairly freely back and forth between
RedHat-packaged vs. contrib vs. built from a foreign distro SRPM, and this
would not cause the headaches that it does now.  The major part of the
problem is handling dependencies, and this is a complex problem, but is
mostly a rat's nest when it affects non-leaf packages in the dependency
tree, which really can only be provided by RedHat or a conscientious
contributor.  Alas, really needs to be cooperation in canonical naming
of resources so that the RPM RDF files from rpmfind.net realize their
potential.

Regards,

   Bill Rugolsky



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