I just did a little more digging...it looks like the problem is restricted 
to one machine behind the firewall...an OS/2 system.

The Windows machiens seem to be able to download fine.

The reason I didn't notice it, at first, was that I was trying to download 
ISO images, and the only system I have with a burner is my OS/2 machine.

Figures...

Well, I've been meaning to retire that machine...or, at least, that OS.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Mike Burger wrote:

> I'll answer in-line, if that's ok.
> 
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Robert wrote:
> 
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > This particular question just begs for more info, because the underlying
> > issue is one of performance vs setup of your firewall..
> > 
> > For example, how about FTP'ing from the firewall to an INTERNAL server?
> > What's the speed of *that* transfer??
> 
> FTP transfers from the server/firewall to workstations inside the 
> firewall, over the 10BaseT network, run between 350 and 450K/s
> 
> > What's the specs on the machine that you setup as the firewall?
> > What kind of NIC's (type, speed, settings)  are you using?
> > Are you using NAT?  
> 
> PII 300, 256MB RAM, 6GB HD housing /boot and /, 30BG HD housing swap, 
> /home and /var (both drives EIDE).  Both NICs in the firewall machine are 
> 3C905B cards.
> 
> > What release of Seawolf are you using?  Any upgrades or patches?
> 
> Fully up2date'd Seawolf, with the SGI XFS kernels.  I've tried a few 
> different kernel versions (2.4.3, 2.4.5, currently 2.4.9).
>  
> > How about other types of transfers from the clients, such as HTTP
> > downloads?  Do they also fare as badly?
> 
> Nope...http seems to run quite well.  
> 
> > While I agree with you, your setup should NOT be showing such a large
> > discrepancy in download speeds (considering that you should be able to
> > sustain well over 100kb/sec downloads with your setup, assuming you have
> > a full T1 line available  (theoretically, you should be able to hit a
> > max of 192Kbytes/sec  minus overhead and latency issues)), and 3Kb/sec
> > is WAYYYY too slow.  But I'd also suggest that your 40 - 80Kb/sec is
> > also off by half at least... That indicates that either you're not
> > hitting a fast server, or your firewall isn't up to the task of
> > maintaining available wirespeed transfers... Probably due to setup
> > issues (conflicts in HW setup, shared IRQ's on devices that don't share
> > well, inadequate device capabilities (like ISA-based NIC's instead of
> > PCI, etc).
> 
> Well, the downloads, lately, have been ISO downloads from RedHat's site, 
> so the 40-80K/s, given that there is other traffic on the T1 in question, 
> probably isn't that bad.
> 
> As to IRQ sharing, you could have a point.  Both NICs seem to be sharing 
> IRQ 11, though they are both PCI cards:
> 
> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:4B:2F:E6:51
>       inet addr:216.140.122.113  Bcast:216.140.122.127 Mask:255.255.255.192
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:4029450 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:2909234 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xe400
>  
> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:AB:02:CF
>           inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:681387 errors:12 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:12
>           TX packets:1580027 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:196625 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:11 Base address:0xec00
> 
> > Anyways, I'm off to work for the day, but if you'd post back some of the
> > specifics of your installation, I'd be happy to give it a look-see and
> > see if there's any glaring discrepancies with it... 
> 
> Other than that, if my IPTables setup might yield a clue, I'll be happy to 
> put that up, too.
> 
> BTW, the following IPT modules are loaded (IPtables list from lsmod):
> 
> ipt_MASQUERADE          2397   1 (autoclean)
> iptable_nat            20648   1 (autoclean) [ip_nat_ftp ipt_MASQUERADE]
> iptable_mangle          2766   0 (autoclean) (unused)
> ipt_LOG                 4292   3 (autoclean)
> ipt_state               1569   3 (autoclean)
> ip_conntrack           21154   3 (autoclean) [ip_nat_ftp ip_conntrack_ftp 
> ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat ipt_state]
> ipt_limit               1998   4 (autoclean)
> iptable_filter          2757   0 (autoclean) (unused)
> ip_tables              13775  10 [ipt_REJECT ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat 
> iptable_mangle ipt_LOG ipt_state ipt_limit iptable_filter]
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Burger
> > Sent: November 13, 2001 8:49 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Slow FTP from behind Netfilter/IPTables firewall.
> > 
> > 
> > My firewall is connected to a relatively low use T1 by way of 100MB
> > switch.
> > 
> > Performing FTP downloads, from a console session on the firewall/server,
> > I routinely see speeds between 40 and 80 K/s.
> > 
> > The systems behind the firewall, however, can't seem to get FTP
> > downloads that go any faster than 3K/s.  These systems are connected to
> > the firewall by 10Meg hub, but that really shouldn't make a
> > difference...especially not that much of a difference.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any idea what might be causing such a massive speed
> > discrepancy, and how I might fix it?
> > 
> > If necessary, I can post my ruleset(s).
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > --Mike
> > 
> > 
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