----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Andrew Blevins'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'scott [gts]'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'security-basics'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 1:36 PM
Subject: RE: help - can someone explain this to me?


> The 10.0.*, 127.*, and 192.* are not routable addresses, they are
> 'reserved'. I don't recall ever seeing ISP's using a 10. address as a
> public ip. I would wonder if I did.
>

Quite a few ISPs use them for interfaces on their internal routers.  The
first and biggest I can think of offhand is @Home.  Of course, this wouldn't
be an issue except that, as seen below, these IP addresses then appear as
the source for ICMP errors generated by that router:

Tracing route to www.securityfocus.com [66.38.151.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  10.58.34.1
  2   <10 ms    10 ms    20 ms  24.182.156.17
  3    51 ms    50 ms    50 ms  24.18.95.65
  4    40 ms    50 ms    40 ms  10.0.236.70
  5    40 ms    50 ms    40 ms  24.7.76.189

This is, in many people's opinion, a violation of RFC1918.  The engineers of
the networks who use them answer with the equally valid point that their
internal routers can have whatever internal IPs they want, I shouldn't be
trying to connect directly to them anyway.  One of those religious wars you
never really want to get into.

--K


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