If you loose the key(s) that was used to encrypt a file, you will not be
able to copy that file at all. You will not be able to copy it to a FAT
or NTFS partition. You are hooped.

If for example, you were to rebuild your AD root and it was the last DC
in the forest, you would loose your Administrators default recovery
keys. However, the client stores the keys locally and would be able to
log on to his old profile through caching. You would then be able to
decrypt any files that were encrypted while you were a member of the old
domain.
 
However, if you were to recreate the local pc profile to rejoin the new
domain, you would loose your locally stored keys. Now you're really
hooped and you might as well delete your files. 

My understanding is that the only way to recover your files now is by
brute force. See ya in a couple of years.
 
Brad Footit

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: MS EFS Question

What happens if you lose the private key, and from there copy the files
to a
FAT or NTFS4 partition?

Do they remain encrypted?

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Crichton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:06 PM
To: Rob Weiss
Cc: 'leon'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MS EFS Question


Encrypted files do *not* preserve their encryptyed status when copied or

moved to fat partitions from ntfs partitions

Kevin Crichton, MCSE
ICL, UK

Rob Weiss wrote:

> Leon (and others),
> 
> I tried to verify this in some of my MS books, but couldn't find the
answer.
> 
> 
> What I believe that I remember is this:  Encrypted files keep their
> encryption when they are copied or moved, regardless of the
destination
> (NTFS or FAT).
> 
> Rob
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         leon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:00 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      MS EFS Question
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> Hi everyone,
> 
> 
> Quick (and perhaps easy?) question for the MS folks.
> 
> If you have a file on an NTFS volume that is encrypted (with EFS) and
> you transfer it to a fat32 partition what happens?  What happens if
> you copy the EFS file from one NTFS volume to another?  I am going to
> guess that in the 1st case it decrypts the file (not sure).  I am
> pretty sure that in the 2nd case it retains the encryption.  Can
> anyone quickly verify?  I don't have a fat32 partition to test on. 
> In the meantime I will try out the 2nd scenario and you are welcome
> to mail me off-list if you are curious (unless someone answers it on
> list).
> 
> Thanks guys (and ladies of course).
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Leon
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