Paul

The concern about having more compared to less is valid. But I guess you
must evaluate how much more you are getting for the resources you are
spending on the problem.

Using HTTPS (SSL) the data payload is encrypted using a well tested
solution(not using the Export Administration Regulations standards). A 40
bit key has 2 to the power of 40 different keys to crack (1,099,511,627,776
different keys). With the US Domestic version a 128 bit key is used. The
keys also change with every new SSL session. Cracking that requires (at
least today) hundreds of computers running in parallel working for months.
So, the worry that the data is going to be stolen in transit can be
decrypted is small. 

Using VPN the data payload is also encrypted using one of many ways. DES
encryption is weak and the Linux world with vouch for that. However there
are multiple strong encryption that can be used.

Since both provide for strong encryption in transit,  it makes more sense to
put controls around how this data is stored and security on the end points.
In my security experience, you are more likely to see issues with people
knocking on the front door to get this information than trying to brute
force the data. Make sure you have your perimeter secure, good policies and
procedures around the data. You are only as strong as your weakest link and
HTTPS(SSL) or VPN(3DES), I can speculate are not your weakest link.

To speculate again, let assume someone builds a Quantum computer that is
capable of operating many factors faster than our fastest machines, then
doing both 3DES-VPN and 128bit SSL will put you ahead as it would take much
longer to crack.


Sanjay




-----Original Message-----
From: Stanford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Another Security; SEcurity
Subject: Secure Transactions over HTTPS????


How secure is HTTPS?? The question being discussed is:
Should people's private information (medical,
prescription, banking, etc.) be sent over HTTPS or
should a VPN be involved with HTTPS? I always follow
the practice of better to have more than not enough. I
am currently using VPN with HTTPS. I know most, if not
all, banking is done over HTTPS, but what about
people's medical history and stuff like that? Is HTTPS
really secure enough??

Just thought I'd find out what the concensus is on
this matter!!

Thanks in advance for your comments,
Paul

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