I don't know the specifics of Oubliette, but is there also potential that it
might intentionally share your passwords?  Gator has some similar
functionality and does "phone home" for undisclosed actions.  So far I have
only seen evidence of checking for updates of the software and/or ads, but
it still worried me enough to uninstall after taking a look.  Having a UNIX
box on the wire during boot is a good way to sniff for this type of
activity.

Has anyone reverse engineered or gotten a copy of the code and looked for
this?

Also, I agree with Adam, your written English is better than many of the
other emails I get a day written by persons to whom English is the first (or
only) language!  I respect that.

Steve Vawter
UNIX SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR
Zone Labs, Inc.
1060 Howard Street
San Francisco CA 94103
ph    415-341-8323
fax   415-341-8299
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Shephard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 2:47 PM
To: 'Jonas V.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Security of Password-Managers


Jonas,

I've only read a bit about Oubilette in the past but it sounded like the
encryption provided there was not bad-Blowfish, if I remember correctly.
However, anytime anybody can get to all your passwords by cracking one of
them you lose a certain amount of security.

Basically, you have to balance what you want to protect against how much
work you need to do to protect it. If it's something that should be highly
secure, I wouldn't use a password manager at all.

By the way, your English is fine. Considering that you are 12 and you have
some basic knowledge of the concepts of password security and there are many
English-speaking, network-managing adults who aren't even aware that you
shouldn't install IIS if you don't need to serve web pages, you can speak
any way you want! 

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonas V. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Security of Password-Managers


Hello!!

I want to use a password-manager like "Oubliette".
Is this very insecure?
I can choose a very hard master-password with more than 96 bits lenght.
What encryption-algorithm and key-lenght use a program like this?

Thanks for everything!

Jonas Vondran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Please don't laugh about my english!
I'm german and 12 years old.

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