The problem with this is that NTFS permissions are stored against the
file, but the share permissions are stored in the OS. So, for example,
if the drive was removed, and stuck in another machine, then the share
permissions would be gone. Granted, if this happens, then NTFS
permissions are still fairly easy to bypass, but it is still one more
layer of security.

The other issue is that NTFS permissions are less prone to
mis-configurations. For example, let us imagine that you have a folder
called Documents, which contains another folder called Excel. If you
share Excel Documents with Read Only access, but share Documents with
Full Access, then everybody will get Full Access to the excel folder by
simply connecting to the documents share, and going into the excel
folder.

In same example, but using NTFS permissions, even in this sort of
configuration would disallow write access to the excel folder, as the
NTFS permissions are applied however you access a file, whether though a
share, or by console access, SMB, terminal services etc. Share
permissions are only applied when accessing the files through that
particular share.

Benjamin Meade
System Administrator
LanWest Pty Ltd

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2003 4:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: NTFS Permissions (was Share Permissions)

This is interesting because our system (NT 4.0) has been set up exactly
opposite this - ntfs permissions allow full control access to everyone
and share permissions are used to allow/restrict access to the share.
This seems to work pretty well, but are there hidden pitfalls?  

I inherited this system and questioned the apparent inconsistency, but
was told that it was what MS recommends.  My own research couldn't
confirm/deny this and I hadn't seen any issues raised anywhere until
now.

Thanks in Advance,

Sharon Joyner, CISSP
IS Security Administrator
Warner Publisher Services
9210 King Palm Drive
Tampa, FL  33619
Tel: 813-664-8147 Fax: 813-664-8195
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:10 AM
To: 'Security-Basics'
Subject: Share Permissions



Hey all,

Just wondering in Win2K server, when I share a folder, I set the share
permissions to full access for everybody, and then control access using
the file permissions. (Basically cos it cuts down on administration, and
I'm lazy.) Are there any security issues running this way, or is it much
of a muchness?

Thanks,

Benjamin Meade
System Administrator
LanWest Pty Ltd
Ph:  (08) 9440 3033
Fax: (08) 9440 3370



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