I think that if the security of the code in your script is of such
importance, then perhaps its time to move over to VBa from VBs and create a
DLL component, once rendered this is impossible to decipher. Of course you
will need to convert the majority if your code from VBs into VBa, use and
know how to programme in VBa and how to use Visual Basic to debug and
compile your DLL component. Once compiled, all that is needed in the client
ASP scripts is a call to the component function (of course the DLL will need
to be registered on the system first though)

Also, in addition to that you could enforce a high-bit password for FTP and
perhaps remove your Plain Text FTP server (such as IIS's FTP server) and
move to a more secure SecureFTP based FTP tool. Perhaps even remove FTP
altogether and create a secure VPN IPSec tunnel ? I presume that you have a
dedicated box for hosting this site ?

Kind Regards,

Richard Parry
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-----Original Message-----
From: Meritt James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 July 2003 5:49 PM
To: skate
Cc: Eralper YILMAZ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Security-Basics'
Subject: Re: ASP Pages


That is not necessarily always the case.  Do not maintain a sense of
security based around it being so.

Jim

skate wrote:
>
> no-one can read your asp code without having ftp (or similar) access to
the
> directory, the web server will run anything that it determines is asp, and
> only transmit the output. this is the core of server side scripting.
>
> as an extra, double security, you should put most of the core functions
into
> includes, and have them stored outside the web root. occasionally, the web
> server may have problems and transmit things before running them. i've
seen
> this happen in php anyway when the server is in the process of being
> updated...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eralper YILMAZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Security-Basics'"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: ASP Pages
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Use "Script Encoder "
> >
> > You can find detailed info at
> >
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/ht
> > ml/SeconScriptEncoderOverview.asp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Benjamin Meade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "'Security-Basics'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:51 AM
> > Subject: ASP Pages
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We are currently developing a project management system in ASP, and I
am
> > > a little concerned about code stealing. Given that the asp pages are
> > > visible to everyone, how difficult is it for someone to download the
> > > actual asp code? (As opposed to the html that the page generates).
> > >
> > > Also, there is the option for installing the site on a clients server.
> > > Is there any way to encrypt this so that the server can read it, but
the
> > > clients cannot?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Benjamin Meade
> > > System Administrator
> > > LanWest Pty Ltd
> > > Ph:  (08) 9440 3033
> > > Fax: (08) 9440 3370
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Booz | Allen | Hamilton
phone: (410) 684-6566

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