It would be sort of odd for someone to go in a back room and pull out a computer, whip 
it up on the switch and proceed to fire up ethereal. Yet not impossible using a switch 
that locks down would deffinitely help but you also got to remember ARP cache 
poisoning is a major factor in what you are talking about. If you can lock the switch 
down to 1 mac per port, and close all ports that don't have a patch cable hooked up to 
them, you are pretty good. WIFI in my opinion would not exactly be sufficient for a 
credit union as even while it's encrypted, it is not very secure. Although if you had 
to do something to the sort I would suggest checking out 'ipsec'. I'm not sure how far 
they are in the completion of it yet.

--Noah McNallie AKA K-sPecial

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ethan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 18:06:28 -0700
To: "'Sebastian Schneider'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'CHRIS GRABENSTEIN'" <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Network scanning

> Most newer switches can lock down how many mac addresses are allowed to
> be sourced on one port..  if that amount is reached, the port can be
> disabled or other action taken (snmp trap, etc)...   I know there are
> plenty of cisco switches that do this anyhow, I'm sure there are
> others...
> 
> Ethan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 12:10 PM
> To: CHRIS GRABENSTEIN; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Network scanning
> 
> On Friday 08 August 2003 14:19, CHRIS GRABENSTEIN wrote:
> 
> > As far as the hard wires, I think the best solution is to search out
> those
> > unused ports and unplug them from the switch.  They can be quickly
> > reconnected if needed, and you'll know about it. 
> 
> I guess you're actually aware, that not everyone is locking up rooms
> containing switches.
> And just plugging out unused cables won't be sufficient, since usually
> I just can plug out any computer and plug in my own.
> 
> 
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: netsec novice [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:51 PM
> > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Subject: Network scanning
> > |
> > |
> > |Are there tools out there that would allow system administrators to
> be
> > |notified when a new workstation attaches to a network?  I'm
> > |thinking both
> > |wireless and ethernet in this case.  SNMP maybe?  I am in a
> > |credit union
> > |environment and my concern is that someone would be able to steal an
> > |existing jack or a jack that is not physically protected but
> > |live and be
> > |able to capture traffic or do reconaissance.  We don't have
> > |Wireless access
> > |at this point but may look to it in the future.  My only
> > |thought in that
> > |case would be to encrypt all traffic since wireless security
> > |is a bit scary
> > |at this point.  Any ideas?
> >
> >
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