On Wed Aug 20 11:24:54 2008, Johansson Olle E wrote:

20 aug 2008 kl. 12.08 skrev Dave Cridland:

On Wed Aug 20 07:37:32 2008, Johansson Olle E wrote:
3) Clients may be behind NAT, so even a client-to-client direct session may need help from a server (proxy). This will have to be considered.

This is a non-issue - we have Jingle, so we have the ability to negotiate various channels, at least one of which (IBB) will work through any amount of NATs and firewalling, albeit at a cost of efficiency and ugliness. Really, this whole debate about IBB vs NATs vs whatever is immaterial; we have Jingle specifically to solve all these problems, and it passes the buck to ICE-TCP et al to solve the tricky cases.
After spending many years with SIP and NAT traversal, I know that we will still need NAT traversal proxys, ICE/STUN is just a discovery service. And considering a possible future with IPv4 and IPv6, there will be proxys there too. Any solution has to work with an unknown or wellidentified point in the middle.


For the record, I'm saying that we, here, don't need to care at all about NAT traversal because this problem is either solved, or else needs to be solved by Jingle and not by us and not here.

Dave.
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