Hi,

Remko Tronçon;6008 Wrote: 
> 
> Maybe it would help if your post would have been a lot shorter (I
> think you could have asked the same in 15 lines of text). 
> 

Sorry about this. Maybe I always try to explain too much because I am
not native English speaker. And also I prefered to quote the examples
from the XMPP stream from which I wondered these questions.

> 
> Another thing that would help is not post this to security, but to
> standards,
> as this is about stream setup in general, not about security.
> 

Yes I was wondering if it was really the right mailing list. But as it
was dealing about TLS and SASL methods advertized in the stream
features, I thought... I was wrong so...

> 
> - Compression disappearing after TLS negotiation indeed sounds like a
> bad setup/bug.
> 

So jabber.org is bugged. Is it to be fixed in the administration, or is
it a software bug (ejabberd compression feature)? I will see with
Process One maybe if they think the issue is from ejabberd then.

> 
> - In general, features disappearing (e.g. starttls disappearing after
> compression negotiation) or appearing (e.g. PLAIN authentication
> appearing after tls has been negotiated) are valid and useful.
> 

I agree, so that for instance, you accept PLAIN authentication only in
a TLS-encrypted stream when TLS is optional, for a better security.

> 
> - Why post non-required features when there are other required
> features? You may want to first negotiate other (optional) things
> before you start with the required layers? I can't think of a
> practical scenario from the top of my head, though.
> 

Yes... I don't see any either. And for the SASL mechanisms sent when
TLS is mandatory, I don't see the interest, as anyway authentication
cannot happen before TLS negotiation.
For my own, the gmail.com case which I have quoted has not much
consistency for instance (showing some SASL mechanisms, but not all).

Thanks for the answers.
Regards,

Jehan


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