Dirk Meyer wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Dirk Meyer wrote:
>>> But IMHO TLS should be mandatory 
>> Maybe someday, but not soon. We tried that for one week at jabber.org
>> but only for c2s, not s2s. 
> 
> Wait a second. s2s does not use TLS in most cases? 

Not yet. I think we need to push toward that in a more aggressive fashion.

> I understand that TLS
> and certificate checking may be difficult for a client, but for a
> server? So if I use TLS and my friend uses TLS we may still may have a
> weak link between the two servers? I thought s2s TLS is standard
> today. Do you have any statistics about how many servers xmpp.org talks
> to have TLS?

I could pull some of that data for the jabber.org service.

>> I'd love to get to the point where we require TLS across all the hops,
>> but I don't think it will happen very soon.
> 
> c2c security NOW! :)

That's why we're all here. :)

Peter

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