On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Justin Karneges <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Friday 16 January 2009 15:39:31 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> For #1, I think we would define a new application type, such as
>> "urn:xmpp:jingle:apps:xtls":
>
> Yes.
>
>> [I don't see a need to negotiate DTLS directly via Jingle, but I suppose
>> that if we need it we would define a different Jingle application type,
>> such as "urn:xmpp:jingle:apps:dtls".]
>
> To be clear, you're not negotiating TLS directly via Jingle here either.
> You're proposing an application type called XTLS, and XTLS would describe
> usage of TLS as part of the protocol flow.  I make this distinction because
> there's an open idea on the table right now about offering TLS at the Jingle
> level.  More at the end of this mail.
>
>> So we'd need a way to exchange information about the association via
>> Jingle. In DTLS-SRTP you need a separate DTLS-SRTP session for each
>> host/port quartet, but you can share the same *DTLS* session for
>> multiple DTLS-SRTP sessions.
>
> Yes, although it's unclear to me how you're suggesting DTLS be used here.  As
> I understand it, DTLS-SRTP requires an existing DTLS session to operate.

I'm not sure what you mean by "existing". DTLS-SRTP is an inband
key management protocol, so you set up a DTLS association inline with
the SRTP channel.


-Ekr

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