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Somebody claiming to be Justin Karneges wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 May 2009 19:28:30 Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
> > 1) What do people think of also signing the content of the <x
> > xmlns='jabber:x:encrypted'> element, to get encrypted and signed messages
> > (instead of just encrypted messages and signed presence)
> 
> However, after our last e2e security discussion, I believe there was some 
> consensus that we should offer both session-based and single message 
> security.  So, we may seriously pursue PGP encrypted+signed single messages 
> once again.

That would be really awesome :)

> > 2) What do people think of clearsigning <body> on a message in line with
> > OpenPGP?
> 
> I don't think we should use clearsign in IMs.  It would be silly if clients 
> not supporting PGP were to display all of that clearsigning garbage in a chat 
> window.  For XMPP, it would make the most sense to have the <body> contain 
> just the text message, and separate elements would be used to handle the 
> signature/etc.

Well, I was thinking more for uses of XMPP outside of IM, but I agree that
either way it is not ideal.

> > It would be really awesome if the same keys/mechanisms could be used for
> > signing (/encrypting) XMPP messages as email messages, in general, since
> > this makes a lot of multi-mode applications much easier to work with.
> 
> You can read the dead sea scrolls:
>   http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/secure.html

That's basically exactly what I'm looking for... or something very like
that, anyway.  A "clearsign" style idea where one can sign the stanza
without affecting the ability of unsupporting clients to interpret the data
would be a nice bonus, but otherwise it's really good.

Of course, given it's age I expect that people don't like it for some
reason, or else it would have progressed furthur by now.

- -- 
Stephen Paul Weber, @singpolyma
Please see <http://singpolyma.net> for how I prefer to be contacted.
edition right joseph
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