On 04/18/2018 04:44 PM, Jaap wrote:
> I am on Fedora 28, 4.16.2-300.fc28.x86_64 On a Dell laptop
> policy:   selinux-policy.noarch 3.14.1-18.fc28

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> I do not know if / where Selinux messages are about the crash of selinux. 
> Does selinux have a log?

ausearch -i -m AVC,SELINUX_ERR,USER_AVC -ts boot will show all SELinux kernel 
permission denials (AVC), kernel errors (SELINUX_ERR), and userspace permission 
denials (USER_AVC) since boot.  You can use other start time values (e.g. 
recent, today, ...) and other selectors to control exactly what is reported.

> 
> 
> On 04/18/2018 10:04 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>> On 04/18/2018 04:01 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
>>> On 04/18/2018 03:40 PM, Jaap wrote:
>>>> selinux crashes always at startup. problem is always reported (says 
>>>> selinux) But it does not get better.
>>> None of the SELinux messages you showed are errors.  They are just 
>>> informational, and the message "the above unknown
>>> classes and permissions will be allowed" indicates that they won't cause 
>>> any permission denials.
>> Also, you didn't provide any information about your kernel, distro, policy, 
>> etc.
>> Please provide a more complete log (particularly one that shows the actual 
>> error) and
>> information about the system in question.
> journalctl | grep selinux gives this:
> 
> Apr 18 21:26:06 localhost.localdomain audit[1170]: USER_START pid=1170 uid=0 
> auid=42 ses=1 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
>  acct="gdm" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
> res=success'
> Apr 18 21:26:06 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> status } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 cmdline="/usr/libexec/gdm-wayland-session 
> gnome-session --autostart /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:07 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:08 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:08 localhost.localdomain systemd[1170]: selinux: avc: denied  { 
> reload } for auid=n/a uid=42 gid=42 
> cmdline="/usr/libexec/gnome-session-binary --autostart 
> /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart" 
> scontext=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 tclass=system 
> permissive=0
> Apr 18 21:26:17 localhost.localdomain audit[1613]: USER_START pid=1613 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=3 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
> res=success'
> Apr 18 21:26:17 localhost.localdomain audit[1606]: USER_START pid=1606 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=2 subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker" 
> hostname=localhost.localdomain addr=? terminal=/dev/tty2 res=success'
> Apr 18 21:26:50 localhost.localdomain audit[1606]: USER_END pid=1606 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=2 subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> msg='op=PAM:session_close 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker" 
> hostname=localhost.localdomain addr=? terminal=/dev/tty2 res=success'
> Apr 18 21:26:57 localhost.localdomain audit[2919]: USER_START pid=2919 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=5 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
> res=success'
> Apr 18 21:26:57 localhost.localdomain audit[2869]: USER_START pid=2869 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=4 subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker" 
> hostname=localhost.localdomain addr=? terminal=/dev/tty2 res=success'
> Apr 18 21:27:33 localhost.localdomain audit[2869]: USER_END pid=2869 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=4 subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> msg='op=PAM:session_close 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker" 
> hostname=localhost.localdomain addr=? terminal=/dev/tty2 res=success'
> Apr 18 21:27:40 localhost.localdomain audit[3983]: USER_START pid=3983 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=7 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
> res=success'
> Apr 18 21:27:40 localhost.localdomain audit[3940]: USER_START pid=3940 uid=0 
> auid=1000 ses=6 subj=system_u:system_r:xdm_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 
> msg='op=PAM:session_open 
> grantors=pam_selinux,pam_loginuid,pam_selinux,pam_keyinit,pam_namespace,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix,pam_gnome_keyring
>  acct="jaap" exe="/usr/libexec/gdm-session-worker" 
> hostname=localhost.localdomain addr=? terminal=/dev/tty2 res=success'
> [jaap@localhost ~]$
> 
>>>> from journalctl:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> n systemd-journald[207]: Received SIGTERM from PID 1 (systemd).
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: systemd: 15 output lines 
>>>> suppressed due to ratelimiting
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux: 32768 avtab hash 
>>>> slots, 107409 rules.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux: 32768 avtab hash 
>>>> slots, 107409 rules.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  8 users, 14 roles, 
>>>> 5094 types, 312 bools, 1 sens, 1024 cats
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  94 classes, 107409 
>>>> rules
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class sctp_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class icmp_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class ax25_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class ipx_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> netrom_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> atmpvc_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class x25_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class rose_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> decnet_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> atmsvc_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class rds_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class irda_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class pppox_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class llc_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class can_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class tipc_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> bluetooth_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class iucv_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class rxrpc_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class isdn_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> phonet_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> ieee802154_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class caif_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class alg_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class nfc_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class vsock_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class kcm_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class 
>>>> qipcrtr_socket not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Class smc_socket 
>>>> not defined in policy.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux: the above unknown 
>>>> classes and permissions will be allowed
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Completing 
>>>> initialization.
>>>> Aug 15 20:43:44 localhost.localdomain kernel: SELinux:  Setting up 
>>>> existing superblocks.
>>>
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