Hi,

To try to address all your issues:

- #info not working in forms - yeah, that's a bug/omission in SF; I guess no
one had tried inserting tooltips into forms until now. :)

- property stuff - it's fine to say something like "a page cannot be
considered a country unless it has a population specified"; that's what
mandatory fields are for. But what you seem to be arguing for is something
like "a page cannot be considered a country unless it has either a
population *or* a capital specified". That just seems odd to me, and I can't
imagine that there's any corresponding concept in OWL. Unless I'm
misunderstanding something.

- MographWiki - I wouldn't really say that it's apples to oranges, since one
could imagine that "cities" template having actual data fields, and there
being a corresponding form; even in that case, though, it would still be
useful to have a city page defined with none of that data, since it would
still show the various aggregated lists.

- "add another" - yeah, it's true that someone could accidentally click on
"add another" a bunch of times, and the system should probably ignore all
but one blank value; I wouldn't call it a "serious problem", but I guess
that's a matter of opinion.

-Yaron


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM, John McClure <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Whoops - forgot to note, in the case FOR "no-null-call", that a
> serious problem comes up with {{{for-template|multiple}}} whenever the
> template does NOT contain any mandatory fields. If the user selects
> "Add another", but does not "Remove" it before saving the page, then
> an empty call is being inserted into the page. Of course, whenever the
> page is re-edited, those empty fields are displayed again. I hafta
> think that's clearly a bug -- the user in this case had no intention
> to create a new instance of the template and its fields, the user
> simply forgot to "Remove" it before saving the page.
>
> Which of course brings back to mind that default values cause problems
> detecting when a user has forgotten to "Remove" an empty/unwanted
> template repitition, because those fields with defaults automatically
> translate into template args.... so I have to conclude that "no-
> default-arg" remains important to me, in order to address this highly
> understandable "mistake" by the user, while preserving default values
> in repeating templates.
>
> So that's the use case for "no-default-arg" that I'm most concerned --
> if you know how I can otherwise deal with this, that'd be great -
> thanks!
>
> [ok, i'll be quiet now!]
> >
>

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