Hi, twistedjuggler,

As someone who's been involved with juggling for more than 20 years (look me
up on JTV) and who's also been involved in creating 4 separate SMW systems,
I was naturally curious to chance upon this thread.

Whilst the idea of creating a semantic wiki of juggling tricks seems an
interesting one, the description you've given of what you're actually
planning to do makes me wonder whether your plans and expectations for the
system are somewhat flawed.  Maybe I'm missing something, but I can't
understand why you'd ever want to create a system that had, say, separate
pages for a 3-ball, 4-ball and 5-ball shower and then, in addition to that,
further pages still for a 3-club, 4-club and 5-club shower.  I assume that
this would mean that if someone wanted to post something about doing a
shower with 3 rubber chickens, they'd have to create a page about that too? 
Surely, this is both unworkable and pointless.  Why not just have a page
about showers in general?

Also, have you considered what you'd do about siteswaps that don't have
common associated names - would you include the siteswap number in the page? 
If so, wouldn't that suddenly make your page naming scheme confusing, with
some pages using siteswap notation and others not?  Or, in fact, what would
your policy be on siteswaps in general - surely you're not intending to
create a separate page for every theoretical siteswap number (there are
1000s) and then duplicate those for every different type of prop?  The
implications of that aren't even worth thinking about.

Might I suggest re-evaluating what you're really wanting to achieve from
such a system, perhaps by speaking with other jugglers to see if they
consider your ideas to be practical, useful and realistic.  Remember that a
wiki is a collaborative tool and thus, for it to be workable, you've got to
make it usable by others.  Personally, if I came accross a wiki with a page
system as complex and fine-grained as you're suggesting, I'd turn it off
immediately.

Sorry to be so negative, but I really suspect that you're going to be
wasting your time if you continue on the path suggest at.


Guy Heathcote 


twistedjuggler wrote:
> 
> 
> Not all the same name.
> 
> this is my problem. I am building a wiki for juggling tricks. the
> problem is that a lot of tricks have the same name, but a different
> amount of balls. at the moment I have them set up with a superpage
> super_page=3.
> I don't like this beacuse when they are displayed they would come out
> as 3/cascade, 3/shower, 3/flash, 3/one over the top. these four names
> and many more would appear in 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7balls. so what I want to
> do is have them displayed like shower_3, shower_4 or shower_5.
> 
> I cant use the namespace to do this beacuse I already have around 30
> namspace for different objects like club juggling, ring juggling, poi,
> diabolo and others, all have a lot of different number of objects
> within each name space.
> Is there a way to do it?
> > 
> 
> 

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