S Page wrote: > Temlakos wrote: > >> <http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Terre> > > Nicely done! Thank you. > > At first I wondered why you translated the infobox source data, when > you could keep it the same and just modify the template to display > French labels and annotate with French property names. But then > looking at the source of each: > {{Infoboîte Planète|image=Moon.jpg > |primaire=Terre > |périapside=363.300 km > vs. > {{Infobox Planet|image=Moon.jpg > |primary=Earth > |periapsis=363,300 km > > I realize you have to change the page titles in properties of > Type:Page, and you may want to present a different default for values, > and even the parsing of separators and decimal point is different. > Plus it's harder for French editors to work with English names in a > template.
Exactly. Indeed I had to implement the entire template in French, so that it would annotate French-language versions of all my properties. (And some of those properties required French-language versions of my custom types!) And as you saw, I made every effort to provide French-language parameter names for use by any French-speaking editors. And of course a French speaker would find working with English names more difficult. English is the worst language ever invented for having to learn it as a second language. I find gaining facility in French myself far easier. > It still might be possible to address these issues and make > Template:Planet work in multiple languages so the wiki text of the > infobox can be copied and pasted between them. If I understand you correctly, that would require knowledge of the language code. Does MediaWiki have a standard variable for the language code? if so, how is that variable named? > >> I also linked every type and property in French to its equivalent >> type or property in English, using Interwiki-style language links. > > If one does this for many pages on your wiki, then it permits the > auto-translation of facts. You could request facts in a different > language then query the interwiki language equivalents from the > langlinks table and where available present the translated names. You > could either make this available to wiki editors for easy copy and > paste, or provide it to users who can see "just the facts" from other > languages that might have more annotations. > > I tried writing a Special:TranslateFacts to do this, but ran aground > on the SQL. I think Mr. Vrandecic has done something similar in > Special:Browse, it has a smwfTranslateTitle() function. But I > couldn't get it to work using > http://creationwiki.org/fr/index.php/Special:Browse/Lune?uselang=en > http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Special:Browse/Moon?uselang=fr I haven't had a chance yet to figure out why SMW 1.0.1 locks all pages having dates on them. Which is why I am still running SMW 1.0, one "minor release" behind. Does SMW 1.0.1 have Mr. Vrandecic's changes to Special:Browse? Temlakos ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
