Hi Neill, maybe it would help if you could point out, what you would expect from an LTS version. I mean, compatibility of other extensions to SMW 1.8 is not something SMW has much influence on, is it. Ok, as a start, the SMW maintainers could create a kind of rallying point by declaring a specific version to be an LTS version, so other extensions could take specific care to be compatible with it. But what else?
Cheers, Stephan On 4 December 2012 15:02, Neill Mitchell <ne...@nlkmitchell.com> wrote: > Hi James. > > Thanks for your reply. > > The reason MW has gone with this approach is because the 6 monthly > releases regularly breaks extensions and even more problematically, > skins as well. There has been very heated discussion on the MW forums > because of this. It is putting off a lot of people from building and > maintaining extensions if they have to keep being constantly fixed every > six months. This is not just a problem for enterprise class users. Even > "lite" users are finding this a pain. > > It is always very tempting to use the very latest and greatest version > of everything when building extensions, but if it causes a lot of > problems for the user base it is not always a good idea. Unless the > benefits really outweigh the pain of upgrading of course. > > Are there vital changes going into 1.20, 1.21 that really mean keeping > compatibility with 1.19 will be impossible going forward? If this is so > then this is a very worrying trend. 1.19 is only 8 months old. > > Best regards > Neill. > On 04/12/12 12:11, James HK wrote: >> Hi, >> >> While people might want to have something like LTS (long term >> support), you have to remember that MW has a vibrant group of >> contributors where SMW as it stance right now (counting on the commit >> history of the last 12 month [1]) only has four people contributing on >> a more frequent base(at least once a month, without counting >> translations). >> >> Keeping SMW1.9/MW1.19 as LTS would mean you have to maintain a >> different code base throughout your development branch which means an >> increased effort to maintain new developments and "old" developments. >> >> I would guess that LTS is something a commercial enterprise is more >> suited to deliver than asking volunteer developers to keep in mind >> when they want to shift the border of software functionality. >> >> PS: Personally, I had already had my fights in keeping some parts of >> SMW 1.8 in alignment with MW 1.17. >> >> [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/smw/contributors?query=&sort=commits_12_mo >> >> Cheers >> >> On 12/4/12, Neill Mitchell <ne...@nlkmitchell.com> wrote: >>> Mediawiki is now offering long term support for MW 1.19. Will the same >>> policy be applied same with SMW? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Neill. >>> On 02/12/12 10:50, Markus Krötzsch wrote: >>>> +1 for dropping 1.18 in 1.9. >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> On 02/12/12 02:43, James HK wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. You read my mind, I was just about to write a similar email as >>>>> it happens 1.18 already dropped from the official MW supporting list >>>>> [1]. >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> On 12/2/12, Jeroen De Dauw <jeroended...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hey, >>>>>> >>>>>> Since the 1.8 release got relayed quited a bit (it was originally >>>>>> scheduled >>>>>> for September and will be made tomorrow) I suggest we do not just drop >>>>>> support for MediaWiki 1.17 but for 1.18 as well. Assuming we manage to >>>>>> stick to the release schedule for 1.9, MediaWiki 1.19 will have been >>>>>> available for almost a year at the point of release. Any objections? If >>>>>> not, I'll update the roadmap [0]. >>>>>> >>>>>> [0] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap#SMW_1.9 >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Jeroen De Dauw >>>>>> http://www.bn2vs.com >>>>>> Don't panic. 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