Since I got mentioned in this thread: I didn't mean for my previous
email about inverse queries to be cryptic! Basically, it looks like
the general pattern for inverse queries is:

<ask>[[Page_name]][[Relation_or_attribute_name:=*]]</ask>

(or '::', if it's an attribute) And you can include as many relations
or attributes as you want.

Since I'm already writing - yes, the best solution to this (if I
understand the problem) is to label every page that defines a
conference series with something like [[Category:Conference series]],
and to embed that within a template. That way you get around the
problem of finding distinct series, as well as the problem of finding
series that don't yet have any specific conferences attached to them.
I don't view such a solution as a hack at all - just good information
architecture.

-Yaron


On 5/21/07, Sergey Chernyshev
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeh, I understand that I can hide stuff using templates, but uniqueness is a
> key here and the funny part that underlying infrastructure actually support
> it easily - just select from different column.
>
> I need this badly - I don't want to add data to the system just to support a
> query althought I might make sense to just have [[Category:Conference
> Series]] in all conference series template or something.
>
>             Sergey
>
>
>
> On 5/21/07, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sergey Chernyshev wrote:
> > > In my techpresentations.org <http://techpresentations.org> wiki, I have
> > > conference page like "OSCON 2006" that have [[Series::OSCON]] relations
> > > to the conference series pages.
> > >
> > > Is there any way for me to select all objects of "Series" relation, e.g.
> > > "OSCON" without selecting subjects of those relations. I also need to
> > > have them unique (similar to DISTINCT in SQL).
> > >
> > > This can be easily done using regular RDF tools like Redland for
> example.
> > >
> > > I can't find solution myself - any help will be appreciated!
> >
> > Subqueries provide a restricted list of objects to an inline query, e.g.
> >         [[Series::*]][[Series::+]]<q>[[Blog:=+]]</q>
> > will only show the pages with a Series relation whose object has a Blog.
> >
> > BUT, I can't figure out how to get inline queries to just show the
> > objects returned by the subquery.
> >
> > You can fake it by using templates in SMW 0.7 to hide the subjects.  I
> > made http://www.techpresentations.org/Test
> > But you don't get uniqueness; you're still asking for "All pages that
> > are the subject of a Series relation, and for each of these the object
> > of its Series relation".
> >
> > However, Yaron Koren recently wrote in "Re: [SMW-devel] Reflexive
> results?":
> > > Well, my mistake - I tried it out, and it appears "inverse queries",
> > > i.e. queries that return the object of triples, given the subject,
> > > work. And it looks like the functionality has been in SMW for a
> > > while... for some reason, it's not mentioned in the help page
> > > (http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries ), and I
> couldn't see
> > > documentation anywhere else either. Is this a secret or unsupported
> > > feature? In any case, good to know.
> >
> > But he didn't say how he got it to work!
> >
> >
> > Wei Dai posted a patch back on 2006-12-19, "[SMW-devel] patch: inline
> > query for inverse relations and relation wildcard", I don't think anyone
> > tried it.
> >
> > --
> > =S Page
> >
> >
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