Well-put Karin. It is important not to loose the forest in the trees, so to 
speak. I have been advocating for a restructuring of our thought process in the 
care of patients with "just a virus".

Sepsis is the human response to infection, regardless of etiology, which 
includes specifically viral, fungal, and parasitic in addition to bacterial.
CDC reports Influenza-associated deaths in the US were 40,000 in 2006 and 15000 
in 2007.

Identifying acute organ dysfunction and/or elevated lactate in the context of 
systemic infection, regardless if cause, is a patient population who needs 
further care.

This is a great challenge though, as evidenced by this conversation, and 
represents a change in our approach to patients with sepsis.

Ryan


Ryan Arnold
Copper University Hospital



On Dec 14, 2012, at 8:48 AM, "Karin" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Flu kills more people per year than MVCs, so warrant labs and lactate.  
Elevated lactate regardless of cause associated with increased mortality.
Karin

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On Dec 13, 2012, at 6:28 AM, Sue Beswick 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

There are some concerns that we will be doing extra/unnecessary testing (blood 
culture, Lactate, etc) with all of the flu patients who have a temp and 
increased heart rate during the flu season.

Do any of your facilities, modify your sepsis screen in ED for flu?   Do you 
look at the known or suspected infection and say probable flu so does not meet 
sepsis screen?

Thanks
Sue

Sue Beswick RN, MS, CCNS, CCRN
Clinical Nurse Specialist - MSICU
Greenville Hosptial System
University Medical Center
Greenville, SC
Office:  864-455-4884

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