There is a good recent review on various methods to measure cardiac output
to assess fluid responsiveness:
Marik, PE. Noninvasive Cardiac Output Monitors: A State-of the-Art Review.
J Cardiothorac Vasc Anesth. 2013 Feb;27(1):121-34.
http://www.jcvaonline.com/article/S1053-0770%2812%2900148-6/fulltext

There is also good evidence that CVP does not predict fluid responsiveness
well:
Marik PE, Baram M, Vahid B. Does central venous pressure predict fluid
responsiveness? A systematic review of the literature and the tale of seven
mares. Chest. 2008 Jul;134(1):172-8
http://journal.publications.chestnet.org/article.aspx?articleid=1085950

-Andy


Andy Bourgeois, MD, FAAEM
Simi Valley Hospital

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:17 AM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Fluid challenge is one of the most dificult things to do....sometimes you
just need 1 l of cristaloids on others you will use as much as 5 l.....as
it was mentioned above the clinical response is the goal....o others you
will need more tools like central venous pressure, svo2
> Even measure the diameter of inferior cava vein all these to estimate
where are you standing.....
> Hope it helps
> Juan pataro md
> instituto argentino de riƱon y transplante
>
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> Fecha: dom., feb. 10, 2013 10:59 a. m.
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> Fluid should be given until it fails to produce a clinically appropriate
response. Pulmonary edema is sometimes a necessary evil.
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 1:15 AM, sandeep varma <[email protected]>
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> hello all
> i have a query regarding fluid volume requirement in sepsis. often have
seen blood pressure improvement after fluid bolus but only to see it fall
back after few minutes. the postulated theory behind this was leakage of
given fluid into interstitial causing intravascular depletion again. my
concern is that how much of fluid can be given this way? will this lead on
to pulmonary edema and interstitial edema without much helping in building
up intra vascular volume and aiding in stabilizing blood pressure?
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