Hi Everyone,

I am looking for some vital signs policies that are used in other districts.  
We are looking to increase the frequency of vitals in our acute care settings.  
Secondly we are looking toward a Sepsis Screening policy as well.  Any 
information would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Stephanie

Stephanie O'Neill BScN RN
Sepsis Program Nurse Leader
902.574.3556
[email protected]



From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Wrench Rosanne (NHS CAMBRIDGESHIRE AND PETERBOROUGH CCG)
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:57 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis policy

It is great to see this as I presented a poster at the RCGP ann/l conference 
last year (Sepsis in the News) and gave a few local short talks but I felt I 
had not convinced many GP's, so this is very good news!   I had to alter the 
poster at the last minute after seeing Dr Ron Daniels on the BBC - 13/9/13:the 
day of the the Health & Parliamentary Ombudsman's publication of 10 patients' 
sepsis stories:
http://www.ombudsman.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/22666/FINAL_Sepsis_Report_web.pdf

NICE are developing guidance and NEWS was mentioned - I hope this is 
reciommended as an EWS - the local teaching hosp. uses MEWS which does not give 
the guidance for use in Primary Care and Ambulance services as NEWS does.  It 
also omits oximetry which is strange - this was one of the deranged parameters 
in an iGAS Pt of mine who had no resp Sx.

I arrange review at 12h for score 0, 4-6h for 1-4, but this is usually phone 
only - obviously I ensure they have someone competent with them and they can 
measure rr & pulse.  Some have home sphygs but I do not know if they have 
annual calibration!  The arrangement after surgery closure is that they or I 
contact me/ the OOH service if there is any hint of deterioration.  I find the 
credit card sized Sepsis (dr & Pt) alerts developed by Drs Bye  & Daniels are 
invaluable (available from Sepsis Trust).

Since Aug 2012 it has worked very well in avoiding unnecessary emergency ED 
assessment, except a 3 turned out to be urinary sepsis (in for ?5d) - the 
patient told me she felt so unwell, so I sent her to ED,   and a 6 went to zero 
in 12h with oral abx.  I would have sent her in but she looked too well - a 
dangerous phrase often seen in fatal cases, but clinical judgement worked with 
her.
I asked Dr Subbe (NEWSDIG, RCP 2012) at the annual RSM mtg and he advised that 
3-5 scores can be a difficult area in decision making and this is very useful 
advice.
I am auditing my own use but this winter I have not seen any cases of severe 
sepsis, just a lot of vaguely unwell Pts  - NEWS helps reassure me no end and 
the greatest use has been in admission avoidance.   There is a lot of 
experience in Wales and I will forward an email.
Kind regards
Rosanne

Rosanne Wrench PhD MB BChir MRCGP
Sessional GP

________________________________
From: Sepsisgroups [[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mikhail Jacquie - Practice Manager - C84113 [[email protected]]
Sent: 07 July 2014 12:03
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] Sepsis policy

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Hi

I would be grateful if you could review the attached policy and advise of its 
suitability to use in Primary care setting.

Kind regards

Jacquie Mikhail
Practice Manager
Major Oak Medical Practice
22 High Street
Edwinstowe
Notts
NG21 9QS

01623 822303


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