Please do not be concerned about this at this time.  The possibility of 
changing definitions will not affect CMS's abstraction of this measure in the 
near term or long term.  In fact, if the clinical definition of sepsis were to 
somehow change, for better or worse, it is very unlikely CMS, AHA, or ICD-10 
will follow suit for a long time, if ever.

For administrative purposes, from now until the foreseeable future, sepsis will 
remain defined as you currently understand the disease.  If clinicians attempt 
to change the definition in the future, it will take many years for 
administrators to become cognizant (and then interested) in the change.

Sean R. Townsend, M.D.
Vice President of Quality & Safety
California Pacific Medical Center
2330 Clay Street, #301
San Francisco, CA 94115
email [email protected]
office (415) 600-5770
fax (415) 600-1541

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From: Sepsisgroups [[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Mary Kay Bader [[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 10:54 AM
To: Jennifer L Halligan [SJGH]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Sepsis Groups] CMS Abstraction for Severe Sepsis/Septic Shock 
PRESENTATION TIME


Hi
I attended the ISICEM meeting in Brussels 2 weeks ago. There were several 
presentations on March 17 that reported on the march 12-14 International Forum 
on Sepsis. The roundtable included experts from the international world and 
focused on Reducing the Global Burden of Sepsis. Amongst the topics presented – 
there was dialogue of creating a new definition of sepsis as well as exploring 
the true validity (limited sensitivity , lack of face validity, lack of 
construct validity, lack of predictive validity) of the SIRS criteria.   The 
analysis leads me to believe that the SIRS criterial will more than likely be 
replaced by criteria from SOFA (ICU) and qSOFA (ED and the floor). The three 
critical criteria mentioned on qSOFA were Respiratory Rate, BP , and Mental 
Status changes. There is more to come but it was an enlightening presentation.

Mary Kay Bader RN, MSN, CCNS, FAHA, FNCS
Neuro/Critical Care CNS
Mission Hospital

From: Sepsisgroups [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jennifer L Halligan [SJGH]
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 8:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Sepsis Groups] CMS Abstraction for Severe Sepsis/Septic Shock 
PRESENTATION TIME

Question to the group. I have been and currently still am abstracting TRIAGE 
TIME for “time zero”. With the release of the new measure specification 
manual/abstraction guidelines I want to clarify that I will still abstract 
TRIAGE time as severe sepsis/septic shock PRESENTATION TIME even though ALL the 
criterion may NOT be met yet at the time of triage, i.e. for severe sepsis -1) 
documentation of suspected source of infection, 2) 2 SIRS criteria, and 3) 
organ dysfunction?


Thank you,
Jennifer

Jennifer Halligan, RN
Quality Review Nurse
San Joaquin General Hospital
Tel: 209-468-7471
Fax: 209-468-7011


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