I'm sorry I mean to say the Abstractor said the patient did NOT have evidence of organ failure because CMS does not recognize AMS as organ dysfunction so they did not proceed with examining the case for compliance because it did not meet SEV-SEP criteria. They placed it in the Excluded column.
Thanks Susan Cooke MSN RN NEA-BC Sepsis Program Coordinator University Medical Center New Orleans 2000 Canal Street New Orleans, LA 70112 O 504.702.2924 F 504.702.2119 [email protected]@LCMChealth.org<mailto:[email protected]@LCMChealth.org> umcno.org<https://www.umcno.org/> From: Cooke, Susan Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: I need some clarification and would appreciate some input Hi everybody, I am going round and round with our Abstracting company related to a UTI sepsis case. Patient came to ED meeting SIRS criteria and a change in mental status which was reported as definitely improved after antibiotic administration. The Bundle elements were met. The coding was for Sepsis and UTI with a primary of Altered Mental Status. All were POA. The Abstractors excluded the case because they say the patient did have evidence of organ dysfunction because CMS does not recognize Altered Mental Status as Organ dysfunction (but SCCM does). 1. Is this correct that the case should be excluded even though the patient clearly had sepsis. Improved with antibiotics and it was coded as such by the physician? 2. In my email to the Abstractor I had mentioned (because I'm somewhat new to this level of detail and didn't realize the altered mental status wasn't an organ dysfunction) that it was clearly stated in the Discharge Summary that the patient had Altered Mental Status that improved with Antibiotics and the source was a UTI. I was told that -Also,any documentation in the discharge summary is not to be used to determine the presence of severe sepsis/septic shock. Is this true? Isn't the entire chart a possible source for a sepsis diagnosis? Any insight to this type of scenario would be so helpful!! Thanks so much. Sue Susan Cooke MSN RN NEA-BC Sepsis Program Coordinator University Medical Center New Orleans 2000 Canal Street New Orleans, LA 70112 O 504.702.2924 F 504.702.2119 [email protected]@LCMChealth.org<mailto:[email protected]@LCMChealth.org> umcno.org<https://www.umcno.org/>
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