On May 30, 2008 at 14:05, Martin Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heisann,
> 
> as you may have noticed, I am playing around with documentation lately.
> In the process I have tried many things: TeX, Docbook, various Wikis.
> In the end, I am afraid that short of writing something new (which I
> did, too, but that is a different matter), Docbook turns out to be the
> best system. While editing XML is quite horrible, the advantage of the
> tool base around it makes up for a lot. As prove, I have taken bits from
> the existing docbook for the auth module and crafted a man page for
> it:[0]
> 
>    http://www.partim.de/pub/misc/auth.7

It looks very nice! (I love man pages)

> 
> I for one find having a manual page the perfect documentation. But of
> course, you can turn this into HTML or PDF or whatever.
> 
> So, since the Drupal approach and the Wiki approach didn't exactly
> attract a horde of interested documenters, I think we are back to a
> small core team. I browsed around a bit and it appears that the standard
> way of doing documentation is providing a normal manual and having a
> version online where users can put comments into pages (Blog style).
> 
> So, unless anyone objects, I would like to start yet another attempt at
> the SER User Manual. I would like to store the sources in the SER
> repository, in doc/user_manual. For module documentation, I'd like to
> keep a file reference.xml containing a single <refentry> for the module
> in each module directory and ditch the old doc subdirectory.

So you want to move all the *.xml in modules/*/doc into this new
directory doc/user_manual?
I liked it when it was in the same place as the module (I could do 1
commit for both a code an doc chage), but that's really something very
minor. Another point would be loosing history (if we move only the xml 
files and not the whole doc dirs). OTOH I think that at least right now
the history for docs has little value (is not like we need to see why
some change happen in the docs very often :-)).


> 
> I have no idea what would be a good tool to allow the online version
> with comments. I suppose Greger would suggest Drupal. Is that hard to
> set up? Are there any other suggestions? As the place, I would like to
> have http://docs.sip-router.org/user-manual/.
> 
> I am all to aware, that I am arguing against my own earlier opinion.
> But, it appears even I can learn ;) 
> 
> All earlier volunteers are invited to join. If you have any material,
> that you would like to see included in the user manual, let me know
> and/or send it to me.
> 

As far as I'm concerned I agree with anything that might bring us more
documentation and it looks like your approach would :-) But my opinion
doesn't really matter much when docs are involved (I haven't done any
doc system testing like many of you have, I haven't written much docs
and I'm more like the .txt or tex kind of guy anyway).

Andrei
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