On Saturday, Oct 25, 2003, at 21:46 Europe/Rome, Kervin L. Pierre wrote:
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Keep in mind that sysadms configure stuff over the line, GUIs are useless in those cases. Even more: if you tell a sysadm that he/she has to use a GUI to configure something, he/she would not even consider using it.
Stefano, I'm have to disagree with on that.
I'm completely fine with disagreement, expecially on these matters that are so subjective.
I didn't suggest james to avoid having a GUI, I just said that it should *not* be mandatory to use it.
The sysadm I know like vi over ssh and they hate SWAT and the tomcat web interface. I'm no sysadm, but I do help manage the box that runs my email remotely (runs qmail->bogofilter->cyrus) and it has been serving me very well the ability to just ssh->vi->kill-HUP something.
if I couldn't do the same with james, I would simply not use it, even if it had all the features I need (and it doesn't, IMAP+bogofilter are vital for me)
I'm aware that james will never replace qmail/postfix because there is no way it can handle the same amount of load, but an integrated and extensible mail serving solution is still something I'm interested in (even after all these years) for small to medium messaging needs or for very complex mail-driven scenarios [like a messaging-based workflow system, for example]
So, don't get me wrong: I have nothing against GUIs, they are pretty and useful for some. Just keep in mind those guys that have to manage a box from a few thousand miles away.
-- Stefano.
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