Am Montag, den 29.05.2006, 09:30 +0200 schrieb Stefano Bagnara: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > Stefano Bagnara wrote: > > > >> Yes, this was intended. > > > > By whom? I was also going to post something about it. We were talking > > about something, and you just went ahead and broke the builds, which meant > > that all of the automated builds, and anything else that any of potentially > > 1000s of other developers were doing suddenly ceased to work without any > > notice. > > When we agreed to remove ant it was obvious the build scripts should be > removed, too. > If you think we need them, readd it.
I also understood that we agreed to remove them. I also think that any "developer" should really know what todo in this case.. If he don'T know what todo he can ask on the maillinglist and get help like yesterday. So where is the big deal ? > > By whom? > Noel 22/5: "And I think it is time to upgrade our Ant to 1.6.5; or > perhaps remove Ant > from our repository, and ask developers to install it first." > Stefano 22/5: "I agree on ant removal: maven, ant, jre, java, javac > should not be in our repository. The less we keep in our repository the > less outdated things we have." > Bernd 22/5: +1 > Serge 22/5: +1 > I then opened a JIRA issue to track the change for a total number of at > least 10 messages on the mailing list. > > "you just went ahead and broke the builds" doesn't belong to this > thread, imho. > > I think that any developer using Java should know how to use ant, or > otherwise it should be better to not let him build James. James is an > SMTP server and if unexperienced people make changes to it and put it in > deploy it is no good. Fully agree.. > > Btw, I think I have not to explain anything about this. > > Myabe you are too busy to follow the list, because 10 messages on the > mailing list and a JIRA issue seems to me enought to understand > something is happening. > > If I can't move this way I think I should stop working on the trunk and > maybe I should start working on a branch or only on my own James version. > We can't take weeks and dozen of messages for each single commit. > > >> We removed ant from our repository/distribution. > > > > Without posting instructions to people on what they need to do to be able to > > build again. Now you and I may know that you just need to install Ant, > > modify the path, rewrite all of one's existing scripts and cron jobs, etc., > > but not everyone does. > > > >> If you have ant installed and correctly configured you don't > >> need the 2 scripts. > > > > Well, actually, the scripts were setting up the environment for building > > JAMES. > > The wrong environment. Mostly unneeded jars and the path for ant that > was no more there. > > Stefano bye Norman
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