Noel J. Bergman schrieb:
>> Next-major is the only real roadmap we currently have: it has proposal, 
>> status update and discussions. And also a REAL VOTE! 
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>> Next-Major currently is in svn trunk folder. This is what we VOTED.
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>> I made a proposal, we voted, we had all +1s to that vote. I'm just 
>> following that release plan. I really don't understand what's wrong
>> with this. When I'll have understood this maybe I'll come back.
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> I'm sorry that you're taking this badly, and I could see this coming a couple 
> of weeks ago when other people started questioning the release labels.  And, 
> as a reminder, I started this thread to talk about versions in JIRA, 
> specifically removing trunk from the version list, not to talk about about 
> what ends up or not in next-major.  But let try to explain what I see 
> happening.
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> As best I can surmise, Stefano, what's wrong is that only you and I (and 
> perhaps Norman) took the next-major plan seriously in all of its details 
> (which is why I did not vote in favor of it).  Everyone else took it as just 
> a general roadmap, but didn't take seriously the timeframe or consider 
> anything cast in stone.
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Like i said before.. its only a date... if we not feel good with it we
can change it . But having a date has many efforts ;-)

> From what I can see, the agreement that actually exists is that when everyone 
> is comfortable, we branch trunk to a release branch and start work to 
> stablize that branch.  Hey, *I* agree with that, too!  :-)  What I didn't 
> agree with were some of the details, especially the timeframes, and it seems 
> that other folks ignored that and voted for the outline.
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> And I have no problem with the general idea.  We had laid out something 
> similar in the past.  It makes sense.  I just didn't agree with some of the 
> details and certainly not even remotely with the proposed timeframes when 
> combined with the rest of it.  There are things in trunk that have gotten way 
> ahead of anyone's comfort point, and yet there is a lot of GOOD stuff in 
> trunk, too, with high value.
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Can you give some more informations about the things you not happy with ?

> Here is a bit of irony for you, since you seem to think that I'm fixated on 
> next-minor and against next-major.  Most of the code I want to do belongs in 
> next-major.  And I don't want to see us maintain the v2.3 branch once we can 
> stablize next-major.  When I point out how much code has changed, and suggest 
> that we have to review each change from v2.3 to what becomes next-major, you 
> think that I'm trying to be an obstruction.  But what I'm really trying to do 
> is have us do the risk assessment for the code, so that we can more 
> confidently move forward with it.
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>       --- Noel
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bye
Norman



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