Hi Eric, I just tried to acces an empty inbox via thunderbird (pop3) here. It worked without any probs.
Im using windows 7 and thunderbird 3.0.3 Bye, Norman 2010/3/28 Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org>: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Norman Maurer <nor...@apache.org> > Date: 2010/3/28 > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Replace MailRepository with Mailbox / > MailboxManager for POP3Server ... > To: Eric Charles <eric.char...@u-mangate.com> > > > Hi Eric, > > could you maybe use wireshark or something similar to log what > thunderbird tries todo exactly.. ? > > Thx, > Norman > > > 2010/3/28 Eric Charles <eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >> Hi Norman, >> >> I just made the following tests: >> >> - Fresh checkout from trunk and mvn package (some new dependencies were >> downloaded such as jsieve, mailet-sdk,...) => same problem on a local >> deployment with thunderbird : it hangs when mailbox is empty. >> >> - I after defined my production account on evolution >> (http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution) : I didn't have the problem >> anymore, but really strange, evolution downloaded some messages from >> yesterday. Those messages had been deleted from my inbox via thunderbird, >> but was retrieved via evolution... >> >> - I tested with evolution the local deployment I just made : I can read the >> inbox even if empty. >> >> The problem seems to reside on the thunderbird/james conversation when inbox >> is empty. >> >> Tks, >> Eric >> >> >> On 03/27/2010 10:08 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> I just tested pop3 with imail and no messages in inbox and everything >>> "just works". Will try to test it with thunderbird later.. >>> >>> Bye, >>> Norman >>> >>> >>> 2010/3/27 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Eric, >>>> >>>> I will try to find out whats wrong with the pop3 inbox stuff. If you >>>> find out anything else please feel free to just report it.. >>>> >>>> Thx, >>>> Norman >>>> >>>> 2010/3/27 Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Norman, >>>>> >>>>> Many tks for your quick answer. >>>>> >>>>> I had defined in my Thunderbird 3.0.3 client (on linux) the pop3 account >>>>> as >>>>> the default one. >>>>> When launching thunderbird, the connection was succefully done "Host >>>>> contacted, sending login information", saying after 1 second >>>>> "Determining >>>>> which messages to index" (never saw that message before...), hanging >>>>> there a >>>>> few minutes, and finally saying "connection to server ... timed out". >>>>> After >>>>> that, Imap account behaved also such a way... >>>>> I also tried with latest Thundrebird 3.0.3: same result... >>>>> >>>>> I have now defined the imap account as the default one, and it's working >>>>> fine even without any mail in the inbox. >>>>> However, for the pop3 account, I still have the same behaviour. Anyway, >>>>> I >>>>> have a temporary workaround right now. >>>>> I will try to debug it but it may take some time to jump into the new >>>>> architecture (I hacked james 3 years ago, but now we have some new great >>>>> stuff such as jpa, activemq, jackrabbit,...). >>>>> >>>>> Regarding the OOM, I saw some days ago the JAMES-981 regarding the >>>>> ConsumerTemplate. >>>>> However, the problem was still present even after you commited JAMES-981 >>>>> into trunk, so I don't think the problem was coming from that. >>>>> I tried to analyse the 2GB heap dump with eclipse memory analyser, but >>>>> it >>>>> failed (too much swapping, my RAM is only 1GB). >>>>> Currently, the process memory with the new trunk version I deployed >>>>> today >>>>> seems stable. >>>>> I will keep posted if I still have the issue, or if finally, the memory >>>>> remains stable. >>>>> >>>>> Tks a lot and keep up the excellent work, >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Eric, >>>>>> >>>>>> thx for the feedback . Does this happens with pop3 or imap ? Or with >>>>>> both? What client you use? >>>>>> >>>>>> About the OOM Exception, chances are good that this is fixed now. I >>>>>> did something bad with ConsumerTemplate in RemoteDelivery nailet, >>>>>> which could lead to such problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bye >>>>>> Norman >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/3/27, Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Great Norman, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just upgraded to the current trunk to benefit from : >>>>>>> - JAMES-983: common POP3/IMAP MailRepository. >>>>>>> - JAMES-984: activemq 5.3.1 hoping it will resolve some OutOfMemory >>>>>>> exceptions I had (*) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I deployed and now (configured with enableVirtualHosting=true and >>>>>>> JDBCDomainList), I've got the following: >>>>>>> - When my mailbox contains at least one mail, No problem: I can read >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> without any problem. >>>>>>> - When my mailbox is empty, my mail client simply waits and finally >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> me a timeout (closing my client and launching it again with mails in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> inbox, everything is fine again). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anybody else reproduce it? >>>>>>> Is there additional specific configuration I have to apply ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tks a lot, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (*) Just for information, about the OutOfMemory I had with activemq >>>>>>> 3.5.0: >>>>>>> - Testing different configurations from >>>>>>> http://activemq.apache.org/javalangoutofmemory.html didn't help. >>>>>>> - Stressing a local deployment with apache-sever-postage, server was >>>>>>> holding the pressure during hours, however, memory was slightly but >>>>>>> constantly growing. >>>>>>> - I have a heap dump to be analyzed (still todo) >>>>>>> - Reading 6 memory leak bugs resolved in activemq 3.5.1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (https://issues.apache.org/activemq/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10520&styleName=Html&version=12183), >>>>>>> I decided to try to migrate to activemq 5.3.1, and by chance, Norman >>>>>>> checked it in two days ago. I still have to wait a few days to see if >>>>>>> the OutOfMemory problem is resolved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/23/-28158 08:59 PM, Norman Maurer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok it seems like this works for everyone so far.. I will commit it >>>>>>>> this weekend .. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again for all the feedback / questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bye, >>>>>>>> Norman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2010/3/26 Stefano Bagnara<apa...@bago.org>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2010/3/24 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I want to propose some really heavy change in current JAMES trunk, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> so next version. As all of you knows we are supporting IMAP in >>>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>>> development version, which ships with its own mail store backend >>>>>>>>>> called MailboxManager / Mailbox. For POP3 we use MailRepository as >>>>>>>>>> backend. >>>>>>>>>> I think this is a no go for a number of reasons, but the major one >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> that we should be able to switch between IMAP and POP3 without the >>>>>>>>>> need to migrate mails. So I rewrote the POP3Server to re-use the >>>>>>>>>> MailboxManager / Mailbox stuff which is used by IMAP. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think this is a good think. I also hope MailboxManager/Mailbox API >>>>>>>>> can be improved and simplified, but using a single API is the only >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> to go. Once we use only one we'll better understand how to improve >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So if a user login via POP3 he will just see the folder called >>>>>>>>>> INBOX >>>>>>>>>> and nothing else. With IMAP he will see all folders. Thats exactly >>>>>>>>>> what dovecot and courier does ( both heavy used unix imap/pop3 >>>>>>>>>> servers). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A good extension would be to have a "login pattern" to read custom >>>>>>>>> folders.. >>>>>>>>> e.g: I login as "username#FOLDER" with username password and this >>>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>> I get access to FOLDER instead of INBOX. >>>>>>>>> The same could be applied to the delete behaviour (something like >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> "recent:" prefix hack in gmail). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Another advance is that we elimate one more dependency on storing >>>>>>>>>> mails via javamail, which is not the way to go for the future ... >>>>>>>>>> On the downside we will break backward-compatibility with every >>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>> release we did before. So we will need to write a "migration" tool, >>>>>>>>>> but this should not be to hard. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> IMO at this point we should plainly ignore backward compatibility. >>>>>>>>> AFTER we'll have a working release we'll define a migration path >>>>>>>>> (with >>>>>>>>> the help of users wanting to upgrade). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Because the change is so heavy, I dedicited to attach it to JIRA >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> review and not commit it directly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can find it here: >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-983 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So what do you think ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> +1 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stefano >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: server-dev-unsubscr...@james.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: server-dev-h...@james.apache.org
