Hmm.. are you sure thunderbird is calling expunge  ?

Thx,
Norman

2010/4/6 Eric Charles <eric.char...@u-mangate.com>:
> One more information.
> Actions taken via IMAP are net reflected on POP3 : deleting a mail via IMAP,
> you will still have to download it via POP3.
> I don't know if this can help, neither if the goal is to have the same
> behaviour via IMAP and POP3.
> Tks,
> Eric
>
> On 04/06/2010 05:41 PM, Eric Charles wrote:
>>
>> Hi Norman,
>>
>> james revision 930727 (mina RC1, jdk 1.6.0_18) up-and-running since 1,5
>> day in prod.
>>
>> jmap -dump:file=... (this morning and right now) shows
>> org.apache.derby.impl.services.cache.Clock with 15% of Heap, less for the
>> rest.
>>
>> However, I had to redefine all accounts as IMAP in thunderbird to be able
>> to read mails:
>> - the pop3 was working fine, and at a time-being, it hanged.
>> - Since there, all pop3 requests hang (thunderbird gives me a timeout
>> after 2 minutes), simply saying "downloading message 1 of ..." (nothing in
>> the log files)
>> - wireshark shows a correct conversation at the beginning, and afterwards
>> many "Malformed Packets".
>> Maybe I could restart james, but I prefer let him work to have a better
>> view on the OOM.
>>
>> Tks,
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On 04/02/2010 09:04 PM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> I forgot to mention that one cause of the OOM could be the current
>>> usage of InMemoryMail. At the moment James load the whole MimeMessage
>>> into memory while processing the camel routes. This is really a bad
>>> practice in terms of performance and could maybe cause a OOM if you
>>> processing many big messages which are bigger (the sumary) as the
>>> avaible memory.
>>> Could this be the problem on your side ?
>>>
>>> I'm currently workin on storing the MimeMessage on an external storage
>>> and just stream in on demand.. So only the "meta-data" is stored in
>>> jms and the rest in a db / jcr etc.. I have a proof-of-concept workin
>>> here. But I need a bit more time to see if its the way to go..
>>>
>>> I'm also evolating the use of BlobMessages with ActiveMQ.
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Norman
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/4/2 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eric
>>>>
>>>> so at least the files not leak anymore, unfortunaly this was the less
>>>> critical problem.
>>>> About the errors in pop3server I will have a look and see what could
>>>> cause this. I'm 100 % sure it's not related to the OOM.
>>>>
>>>> Any more infos related to the OOM are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Bye
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>> 2010/4/2, Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> nop. OutOfMemoryError is back.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will double check my server, jdk and environment config, but other
>>>>> java processes are running on the same machine without problem.
>>>>> I will also have a stress scenario on my local dev PC that runs fine
>>>>> and
>>>>> after, I will rerun it on my production server.
>>>>> Dump analysis and full profiling are also to do.
>>>>> Some stuff are difficult to simulate : See for example (occurs
>>>>> regulary)
>>>>> ERROR 16:47:23,508 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>>
>>>>> There are no more .m64 file in /tmp
>>>>>
>>>>> Tks,
>>>>> Eric
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ERROR 16:24:53,636 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> INFO  16:24:58,061 | james.smtpserver | Successfully spooled mail
>>>>> Mail1270218298023-9820 from jewishnesses...@ecs-solar.com on
>>>>> 68.62.205.100 for [ric.char...@u-mangate.org,
>>>>> ric.char...@u-mangate.com]
>>>>> INFO  16:25:00,097 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: Journal append took: 989 ms, Index update took 0 ms
>>>>> INFO  16:25:00,099 | james.mailetcontext | Storing mail
>>>>> Mail1270218298023-9820-!226071 in file://var/mail/address-error/
>>>>> INFO  16:25:07,699 | james.smtpserver | Successfully spooled mail
>>>>> Mail1270218307697-9822 from ours...@stahelin.com on 68.62.205.100 for
>>>>> [ric.char...@u-mangate.be]
>>>>> INFO  16:25:08,723 | james.mailetcontext | Storing mail
>>>>> Mail1270218307697-9822-!70969 in file://var/mail/address-error/
>>>>> INFO  16:25:09,908 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: Journal append took: 1184 ms, Index update took 0
>>>>> ms
>>>>> ERROR 16:25:35,144 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> INFO  16:25:41,212 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: cleanup took 7274
>>>>> INFO  16:25:55,612 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: cleanup took 1141
>>>>> ERROR 16:26:42,059 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> INFO  16:27:00,003 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: cleanup took 58100
>>>>> INFO  16:27:00,003 | org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.MessageDatabase |
>>>>> Slow KahaDB access: Journal append took: 10032 ms, Index update took
>>>>> 52100 ms
>>>>> INFO  16:27:02,183 | james.smtpserver | Successfully spooled mail
>>>>> Mail1270218355606-9824 from inexperienc...@toutgratuit.com on
>>>>> 213.163.116.78 for [angelo.bid...@u-mangate.net]
>>>>> WARN  16:36:27,919 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination
>>>>> 'processor.local-address-error' - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap
>>>>> space
>>>>> ERROR 16:43:58,281 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> WARN  16:44:23,231 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination 'processor.spam'
>>>>> - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap space
>>>>> ERROR 16:47:23,508 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> ERROR 16:48:37,497 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> ERROR 16:49:53,684 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> ERROR 16:52:17,970 | org.apache.activemq.ActiveMQConnection | Caught an
>>>>> exception trying to create a JMSException for
>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>> ERROR 16:58:05,554 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> ERROR 17:04:31,427 | james.pop3server | WriteRequest holds not a an
>>>>> valid Object but class java.lang.String
>>>>> WARN  17:09:11,055 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination
>>>>> 'processor.local-address-error' - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap
>>>>> space
>>>>> ERROR 17:09:35,017 |
>>>>> org.apache.james.transport.camel.JMSSelectorPollingConsumer | Consumer
>>>>>
>>>>> Consumer[pollingjms://queue?consumer.endpointUri=activemq%3Aqueue%3Aoutgoing.retry&delay=30000]
>>>>> could not poll endpoint:
>>>>>
>>>>> pollingjms://queue?consumer.endpointUri=activemq%3Aqueue%3Aoutgoing.retry&delay=30000
>>>>> caused by: Java heap space
>>>>> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space
>>>>> WARN  17:09:55,361 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination 'processor.spam'
>>>>> - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap space
>>>>> WARN  17:09:57,557 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination 'processor.root'
>>>>> - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap space
>>>>> WARN  17:11:00,695 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination
>>>>> 'processor.local-address-error' - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap
>>>>> space
>>>>> WARN  17:22:19,706 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination
>>>>> 'processor.bounces' - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap space
>>>>> WARN  17:22:42,422 |
>>>>> org.springframework.jms.listener.DefaultMessageListenerContainer |
>>>>> Setup
>>>>> of JMS message listener invoker failed for destination
>>>>> 'processor.transport' - trying to recover. Cause: Java heap space
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/02/2010 09:00 AM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this sounds promising.... Looking forward for your next report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bye
>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/4/2, Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James survived the night.
>>>>>>> 300MB (exactly the same as when it started).
>>>>>>> No m64 file in tmp.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will post another update this evening.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/01/2010 07:06 PM, Norman Maurer wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah thats right.. just checout server/trunk.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm looking forward to hear your feedback ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/4/1 Eric Charles<eric.char...@u-mangate.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Norman,
>>>>>>>>> Done :)
>>>>>>>>> Tks, Eric
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS1 : I didn't change the config, except for the JDCBDomainList I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> using.
>>>>>>>>> PS2 : I only checkout
>>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/james/server/trunk
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> not the other projects. From what I read from the poms, snapshot
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> imap-mailbox, jsieve,... are taken from the central maven
>>>>>>>>> repository
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't have to rebuild those projects.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    its me again ;) Could you please svn up to latest trunk and try
>>>>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Thx,
>>>>>>>>>>    Norman
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/4/1 Norman Maurer<norman.mau...@googlemail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Hi Eric,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    I did a stress test in the last few hours (running in the
>>>>>>>>>>> background
>>>>>>>>>>>    here) and I was not able to get a OOM yet with
>>>>>>>>>>>    "?broker.useJmx=false&amp;jms.prefetchPolicy.all=1" for the
>>>>>>>>>>>    jmsConnectionFactory. I sent 40000 emails with 100k to it and
>>>>>>>>>>> 3000
>>>>>>>>>>>    with 5 mb.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    I'm using -Xmx512m and memory usage is not getting higher then
>>>>>>>>>>> 700m.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Bye.
>>>>>>>>>>>    Norman
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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