Hi Eric..

2010/8/22 Eric Charles <e...@apache.org>:
>  Hi,
>
> So Tim, you was also ok with optin 2 and finally Norman reverted to option 1
> ? (not sure to be in line :) ?)
>

Seems so..

> I've looked at revision 987821:
> - SubscriptionManager is not used anymore in MailboxManager hirerachy
> (StoreMailboxManager,...)
> - The 3 delegate methods present in DelegatingMailboxManager are removed
> (so, yes, DelegatingMailboxManager is not delegating anymore, and we could
> rename it :), or merge with StoreMailboxManager
> - The ImapProcess is now responsible for the SubscriptionManager
>
> I suppose the spring-beans.xml is not committed according to these changes
> (imapProcessor and mailboxmanager constructors should be updated)

yeah I will update the springs-beans.xml once we know howto process.

>
> I like the idea to leave an interface thats clearly describe the
> Subscription methods.
> Is there a particular reason to have now the DefaultImapProcessorFactory
> responsible for the SubscriptionManager ?
> I can see it's // with the MailboxManager.
> NioImapServer finally uses the imapProcessor bean.

We need the Subscription stuff in some Processors, thats why we need it here.

>
> btw, if we talk Gof patterns, we went from a "Strategy" pattern to a "Chain
> of responsibility" pattern.
> So the question I'm wondering is "is it the responsibility of the the
> NioImapServer to process the mailbox, then the subscription" (it does it via
> the DefaultProcessorChain).
> I remain in favour of "strategy or chain", rather then inheritance.
>
> Tim, are the mapper considerations your're talking here related to IMAP-206
> ? (not sure to understand the relations, maybe a separate thread would help)
>
> Tks,
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 21/08/2010 22:53, Tim-Christian Mundt wrote:
>>
>> Norman,
>>
>> I have not yet reviewed your recent commit. However, I'd like to remark
>> that I was in favor of your last attempt. I just wanted to
>> _additionally_:
>>
>>>>>> I think we should also merge them which
>>>>>> would also simplify the package structure because we wouldn't need
>>>>>> the .mail and .user packages anymore.
>>
>> Which means, not only merge the SubscriptionManager into the
>> MailboxManager like you did, but also the SubscriptionMapper into the
>> MailboxMapper. That would make the separation between .user and .mail
>> superfluous.
>>
>> Does that make sense? Maybe your current attempt is still better, I
>> haven't checked yet.
>>
>> Best
>> Tim
>>
>> Am Samstag, den 21.08.2010, 22:08 +0200 schrieb Norman Maurer:
>>>
>>> Ok another attempt was made.. please review changes made in revision
>>> 987821
>>>
>>> Thx,
>>> Norman
>>>
>>> 2010/8/21 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>> Well I need to revert it ;) I will do so then..
>>>>
>>>> Bye,
>>>> Norman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/8/21 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>> comments inside..
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/8/21 Tim-Christian Mundt<d...@tim-erwin.de>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norman,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you are right in that it was kinda double, so there should be some
>>>>>> cleanup. My first attempt would have been to remove the subscription
>>>>>> stuff from the MailboxManager (your option #1). The reason is that we
>>>>>> always have a manager and its respective mapper. Now we have the
>>>>>> MailboxManager with two Mappers. I think we should also merge them
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> would also simplify the package structure because we wouldn't need
>>>>>> the .mail and .user packages anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats true I just thought it would be more easy to have not to many
>>>>> interfaces to implement. Anyway I would also be happy to move the
>>>>> subscripe stuff to any extra interface. I just don't like to have it
>>>>> duplicated so feel free to revert...
>>>>>
>>>>>> One more thing concerning naming and stuff: Now the
>>>>>> DelegatingMailboxManager is not really delegating anymore. Is there
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> good reason we should keep it separate from StoreMailboxManager? If
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> I'd rather have a little bigger class but fewer hierarchy levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to review..
>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Samstag, den 21.08.2010, 10:23 +0200 schrieb Norman Maurer:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just committed the changes.. If anyone thinks its a bad idea we can
>>>>>>> revert it anyway..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMAP-205
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/8/21 Norman Maurer<nor...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> after looking again at the IMAP api I'm in favor of removing the
>>>>>>>> org.apache.james.imap.store.Subscriper interface and merge the
>>>>>>>> implementations with the MailboxManager implementations. Thats
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the Subsciper interface has 3 methods, all of the methods are
>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> in MailboxManager. So the MailboxManager just wraps the Subscriper
>>>>>>>> implementation and delegate the call to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So there are two solutions to this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Remove the methods from MailboxManager and move the Subscriper
>>>>>>>> interface to the mailbox api
>>>>>>>> 2) Remove the Subscriper interface from store api and merge the
>>>>>>>> implementations
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I stated before I would prefer 2).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bye,
>>>>>>>> Norman
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> Norman
>>>>>

Bye,
Norman

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