Sorry, I was meaning "remove the prefetch policy".

For mails blocked in queues, you can read more on http://markmail.org/message/v4zxfkbkjjllwrbb and try get more information from the jmx console for those messages and on the activemq mbeans.

Tks,
- Eric

On 25/05/2011 16:09, Eric Charles wrote:
OK, so you're using a snapshot of 23/5, just after the commit [1] of 20/5.

If you still encounter the OOM, you can further analyse with "eclipse
mat" [2] for example and ask for "suspects". It will show you the
objects that eat memory (launch james with standard Mx 512M, otherwise
you will need more time to laod dump).

Optionally, you can try to re-add the prefetchPolicy in
james-server-context.xml (see changes from [1]).

Tks,
- Eric

[1] http://s.apache.org/30x
[2] http://www.eclipse.org/mat/

On 25/05/2011 15:56, Nicola Salvemini wrote:
Hi Eric,
I'm using snapshot
james-server-container-spring-3.0-M3-20110523.043027-400

now I'll try to install snapshot
james-server-container-spring-3.0-M3-20110525.115759-407
and I'll add the complete debugging path in the startup script to
further analyse the dump.

Many thanks for your help,

Nicola.


On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 15:17 +0200, Eric Charles wrote:
Tks for your answer.

So you've got more or less the same configuration as I have:
- maildir
- low smtp traffic (I've got a bit more with the spam, but it's rejected
via smtp hook)
- not many users

My config here is really stable after weeks (no oom, low memory
consumption when i monitor via JMX, blob-transfer folders empty).

Yes, it sounds like some mails remains blocked, giving the issue.
Would it come from recent
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JAMES-1253 ?
btw, which version are you using ?

The complete debugging path would be to add
-XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError -XX:HeapDumpPath=/your_path in the
startup script and to further analyse the dump: it will give for sure
the cause of oom.

- Eric

On 25/05/2011 15:02, Nicola Salvemini wrote:

On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 12:16 +0200, Eric Charles wrote:
Hi,
Hi,


Can you give us a rough estimate of the traffic you have?
Mainly SMTP? How many incoming mails/requests per second?


at this time we don't have very high mail traffic, more or less 500/600
mail per day.
James is configured as smtp and imap servers and I think that most of
the traffic is IMAP (currently there are about ten active clients at
the
same time making requests to the James IMAP server).

This will allow us to better define the place to look at.

Also, is the CPU always remain 100% when you have that issue?

Yes, it is in most cases.

Is the log still showing messages after the OOM?

Yes, please consider following log sequence:

DEBUG 04:51:13,425 | james.smtpserver | Unable to process request
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
DEBUG 04:51:16,731 | james.imapserver | ID=2085331846 Got<tag>: 1125
DEBUG 04:51:16,731 | james.imapserver | ID=2085331846 Got<command>:
noop
DEBUG 04:51:16,731 | james.smtpserver | ID=1200023601 executing hook
org.apache.james.protocols.smtp.core.log.HookResultLogger@5ae99cbb
DEBUG 04:51:16,731 | james.smtpserver | Unable to process request
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
DEBUG 04:51:16,731 | james.smtpserver | Unable to process request
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
DEBUG 04:51:13,425 | james.smtpserver | Unable to process request
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
DEBUG 04:51:13,425 | james.imapserver | ID=2140019352 Got<tag>: A05974


I noticed that sometimes the problem occurs for a "blockage" of
ActiveMQ. For some reason it happens that not all spooled mail will be
processed and they remain in "store/activemq/blob-transfer/" folder. If
the number of mail rises too high then the problem occurs.

Last thing: James is installed on a server machine whit following
characteristics:
OS: Opensuse 11.4 64bit Linux kernel 2.6.37.6-0.5
java version: 1.6.0_25
RAM: 8Gb
Architecture: x86_64
CPU(s): 6
On-line CPU(s) list: 0-5
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 6
CPU socket(s): 1
Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
CPU family: 16
Model: 8
Stepping: 1
CPU MHz: 2599.966
BogoMIPS: 5200.12
Virtualization: AMD-V


Thanks for your help,

Nicola.







Tks,
- Eric

On 25/05/2011 11:54, Nicola Salvemini wrote:

Hello,

I'm using James 3.0-M3 with maildir. Everything works fine for one or
two days until I start having memory problems and I need to restart
James.
The problems begin with a long series of messages such as

WARN 04:46:27,928 |
org.apache.activemq.broker.jmx.ManagedRegionBroker
| Failed to register MBean:
org.apache.activemq:BrokerName=james,Type=Subscription,persistentMode=Non-Durable,destinationType=Queue,destinationName=spool,clientId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-4_1,consumerId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-3_1_22_4524

WARN 04:46:27,928 |
org.apache.activemq.broker.jmx.ManagedRegionBroker
| Failed to register MBean:
org.apache.activemq:BrokerName=james,Type=Subscription,persistentMode=Non-Durable,destinationType=Queue,destinationName=spool,clientId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-4_1,consumerId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-3_1_22_4524

WARN 04:46:27,928 |
org.apache.activemq.broker.jmx.ManagedRegionBroker
| Failed to register MBean:
org.apache.activemq:BrokerName=james,Type=Subscription,persistentMode=Non-Durable,destinationType=Queue,destinationName=spool,clientId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-4_1,consumerId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-3_1_22_4524

WARN 04:46:27,928 |
org.apache.activemq.broker.jmx.ManagedRegionBroker
| Failed to register MBean:
org.apache.activemq:BrokerName=james,Type=Subscription,persistentMode=Non-Durable,destinationType=Queue,destinationName=spool,clientId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-4_1,consumerId=ID_alice-58445-1306246275420-3_1_22_4524


and then

DEBUG 04:51:11,445 | james.smtpserver | Unable to process request
java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space

The CPU usage is over 100% and my only alternative is to restart
James.
I tried to increase VM memory (at this time I have -Xms512m
-Xmx1024m)
but the problem keeps coming back.
Does anyone have a suggestion to solve the problem?
Thanks in advance,


Nicola.


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