Norman,

Thanks for the info.  Very useful.  

I think my biggest problem was the delivery threads setting was still at the
default.  I had simply overlooked that setting.  I am curious why the
default is 1.  Seems to me that a normal default configuration would want at
least 2 or 3 threads doing delivery.

Anyway, it's running much better now that I've changed the thread setting.

Thanks again.



-----Original Message-----
From: Norman Maurer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:44 AM
To: James Users List
Subject: Re: Expected Outbound Throughput?

Am Freitag, den 16.06.2006, 15:41 -0500 schrieb JWM:
> I completely understand that many factors can affect throughput, but I'd
> just like to find out if I'm in the correct ballpark, or if I have some
> problems that need to be addressed.
> 
>  
> 
> When my outbound spool gets full and is running full-throttle sending
> outbound emails as fast as it can, according to the log files, I'm
averaging
> about 5 emails going out every minute.  This works out to about 10 seconds
> per email.

Maybe you should try to increase the deliveryThreads. The default is:
<deliveryThreads> 1 </deliveryThreads>

This is seems anyway a bit low to me. We should maybe increase the
standard value. We use about 10 here!
Anyway you can read about throughput here:
http://wiki.apache.org/james/JamesByTheNumbers

> 
>  
> 
> I'm not even close to being network bound.  I'm on a co-lo server with a
> major provider.  My network adapter isn't showing anywhere near capacity.
> My processor is running at 4-5%.  So I'm assuming all of the time is spent
> in contacting remote servers and establishing the connection to send the
> email.  Does it really take that long per email?

Yes it can. But IMHO its not normal. At first i whould check if your DNS
settings are correct. If thats correct i whould check the firewall. Or
maybe the traffic shaping if you use some.

> 
>  
> 
> Just wondering if, in the interest of curbing spam, my co-lo provider is
> possibly throttling back on port 25 or purposely inserting delays.  I've
> heard of DSL and cable providers doing that for home users.  But hopefully
> not a business co-lo provider..

Normally they only block port 25 completly if they want not clients to
send email without use of their server.
If so your provider maybe offer a way of using his mailserver as relay.

> 
>  
> 
> Or is it possible that the target servers are inserting delays?  It seems
> that "outblaze.com" almost always takes 8-10 minutes to send to.
> 
Thats also possible and is named tarpitting. But its not so famous. Read
here for more infos what tarpid is:
http://www.palomine.net/qmail/tarpit.html

Also james support this feature in latest 2.3.0 release ;-)

You could test how long it takes to send an email to the server by use
telnet and send "directly" an email to an recipient on this server.

>  
> 
> Anyway, could you tell me if averaging 5 emails per minute running full
> throttle is pretty much the norm, or is this seriously low?
> 
Yes its to low. Like i said before.
>  
> 
> Jerry


bye
Norman


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