On 19/10/2023 2:55 μ.μ., Inigo Barreira wrote:

Well, my interpretation is that this is not changing the ballot itself, the redline still remains the same (there´s no change in that redline) and only if this ballot passes, at the end, and before publishing, and considered section 2.4, item 8, the chair of the CWG can perform some changes that do not change anything without requiring a ballot procedure, so I guess there´s nothing to vote/discuss there. The change proposed by Ryan is just a simple issue with the format and it´s not changing the content nor anything else.


In order to avoid these different interpretations, section 2.4 item 8 has explicit language that says:

/"The set of changes are limited to: /

 * /The cover page,/
 * /The Table of Contents,/
 * /The year in the “Copyright” information,/
 * /Footers with page numbers,/
 * /Links to other sections within the document."/


The change you propose is outside this set.

Dimitris.


*De:*Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <[email protected]>
*Enviado el:* jueves, 19 de octubre de 2023 13:26
*Para:* Inigo Barreira <[email protected]>; CA/B Forum Server Certificate WG Public Discussion List <[email protected]> *Asunto:* Re: [Servercert-wg] Voting period begins: Ballot SC-066: Fall 2023 Clean-up v2

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On 19/10/2023 12:43 μ.μ., Inigo Barreira via Servercert-wg wrote:

    The voting period for this ballot has started. Note that
    Inconsistent document formatting (Markdown vs PDF) · Issue #462 ·
    cabforum/servercert (github.com)
    
<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fissues%2F462&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kboUaD8%2FdLXH6P3QmW%2B6rECbEqdShzBBOYInHj%2F%2FGtA%3D&reserved=0>
    will be also included (it´s a format issue with no content change).



Inigo,

You started the voting period on a specific ballot that has a specific redline <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fcabforum%2Fservercert%2Fcompare%2F90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264&data=05%7C01%7CInigo.Barreira%40sectigo.com%7Ce3e47cca03974772682e08dbd0963a21%7C0e9c48946caa465d96604b6968b49fb7%7C0%7C0%7C638333115888325237%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kAryYtMgT1v17B59KXxWyeRIehz3ZzEwWmyoYHPWFXY%3D&reserved=0>. That means you cannot make any changes without invoking a new 7-days discussion period. Unfortunately, since you started the voting period there is nothing you can do but either let the ballot fail or withdraw it. Withdrawing a ballot is a new addition to the Bylaws in section 2.3 (4)


    A proposer may withdraw a ballot containing defective language at
    any point during the voting period



According to the Bylaws, the voting period ends 7 days after the voting starts, so that would be 7 days from TODAY (2023-10-19), which means that the voting ends at *2023-10-26*. The information at the bottom of the page should have been updated.

I'd appreciate a confirmation from at least another person that is familiar with the Bylaws about whether my interpretation is accurate or not.


Best regards,
Dimitris.





    **

    *Purpose of Ballot SC-66 v2*

    This ballot proposes updates to the Baseline Requirements for the
    Issuance and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates related
    to the issues and typos that have happened due to the different
    updates of the document. No new normative requirements are
    introduced by the changes in this ballot.

    Notes:

     1. The majority of these issues have been documented in GitHub
        and have therefore labeled as cleanup and have been the basis
        for this update.
     2. Some have been provided by emails to the CABF lists and
        included in this reviewed version because were typos.

    The following motion has been proposed by Iñigo Barreira of
    Sectigo. And, endorsed by Aaron Gable of Let´s Encryptand Clint
    Wilson of Apple.

    *— Motion Begins —*

    This ballot modifies the “Baseline Requirements for the Issuance
    and Management of Publicly-Trusted Certificates” (“Baseline
    Requirements”), based on Version 2.0.1.

    MODIFY the Baseline Requirements as specified in the following
    Redline:

    
https://github.com/cabforum/servercert/compare/90a98dc7c1131eaab01af411968aa7330d315b9b...b72da7a87955aed81d14f9fe96ee222098fd4264
    
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    This ballot proposes a Final Maintenance Guideline. The procedure
    for approval of this ballot is as follows:

    *Discussion (7+ days)*

    •                     Start time: 10-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC

    •                     End time: 17-10-2023 22:00:00 UTC

    *Vote for approval (7 days)*

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