Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: Definitions for SOA

[Keith Harrison-Broninski]

Thanks for the kind words, Gervas! This paper, "The future of personal devices", was developed from a contribution made to the "Oxford University Next Generation Mobile Applications Panel", in an attempt to get the participants thinking beyond technical gimmickry.  I mentioned it to Gervas without being sure if it was suitable for any of his groups - and it is interesting to see that he posted it here, and to what discussion he connected it. The discussion in this forum veers closer to the philosophical than most mailing lists, and the thread on distributed systems/user perspectives is perhaps closest of all.  Where is IT going in a general way?  It seems to me we are on the verge of a step change similar to those experienced when mainframes gave way to "minicomputers" (remember them?), then microcomputers.  And now it's the turn of devices you can carry around to take centre stage. If mainstream computing really moves onto such devices, as I believe is inevitable, then the stage is set for the world's largest "distributed system".  Us! -- All the best Keith http://keith.harrison-broninski.info Gervas Douglas wrote: With the purpose of looking up the stack to a higher level of abstraction and utility, I have just uploaded a paper by KH-B on processes, human interation et al. to the Articles-Whitepaper section of our Files folder. Apart from the fact that it is obviously written by a well educated man of thoughtful and original intellect, I would urge you to have a wee think about this as an example whereby an underlying SOA structure could lend some practical utility. What would it need to in its design to achieve these ends? Gervas --- In service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com, Keith Harrison-Broninski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: +1. Steve shows that pursuing an accurate definition of "distributed system" is going to lead us into technical depths irrelevant to most system developers, let alone system users. Taking a user perspective seems a very sensible approach. -- All the best Keith http://keith.harrison-broninski.info Gervas Douglas (gmail) wrote: So, let us look above a SOA infrastructure and examine how we are going to implement robust, scalable, agile systems with the minimum delay and cost. Let us look at Composite Apps, BPM et al. [Please suggest similar relevant factors based on your experience] May I suggest that keeping in mind these higher needs will help keep us fixed on what is relevant for SOA more usefully than worrying about definitions at this stage? SPONSORED LINKS Service-oriented architecture Computer monitoring software Computer and internet software Free computer monitoring software YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "service-orientated-architecture" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.