Re: [service-orientated-architecture] BPEL+

[Amit Gupta \(FSI\)]

Patrick,   Please read on for my comments on some of your questions:-   > Does any other implementation provide JavaSnippet? > I think most BPEL implementation provide mechanism to include "Java" Snippet. Either directly as Java code embedded within BPEL process translated to Java code during "compilation" of BPEL - or as pluggable components (which in turn can be written in Java).   Fiorao's BPEL, Oracle's (collaxa) BPEL, BEA's etc.. all provide it...and I am assuming that this is supported in other BPEL engines as well.   > What good is BPEL since every implementation seems to have multiple > extensions? > This is an often asked question.. Here's how I look at it.   BPEL is a language standard for Process "Orchestration" - not process implementation. So while most vendors claiming BPEL compliance have completely standard based process orchestration capabilities, the implementation capabilities is where most of the extensions are.   As such BPEL value is portable "Process Orchestration" - but not necessarily portable "Process implementation" (unless each end-point of the process is already Web-service enabled).   Thanks, Amit Gupta Fiorano Software Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Logan, Patrick D To: service-orientated-architecture@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:15 AM Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] BPEL+ "IBM... has... Process Server (a BPEL+ engine)" I cannot tell for sure looking through some of the results of a google search. Is BPEL+ a standard beyond BPEL or just a name for IBM's extensions? There appear to be multiple implementations beyond IBM that mention BPEL+. Are they implementing the same extension? IBM's BPEL+ mentions JavaSnippet. Is this the same as BPEL/J? Does any other implementation provide JavaSnippet? What good is BPEL since every implementation seems to have multiple extensions? Are there any non-trivial in-production orchestrations that are represented as pure BPEL? Are there any reported cases of a team moving BPEL representations from one implementation to another beyond the trivial? Thanks -Patrick YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS  Visit your group "service-orientated-architecture" on the web.    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.