Hi Keith,

Yes, in fact our ESB includes a mobile connector that
provides many of the QoS necessary for enterprise
level SOA, and we completely agree with the need for a
distributed and "right sized" code base.  Our
architecture in general is a distributed one supported
by a microkernel runtime with configurable plug-ins
(i.e. deploy what you need for a given endpoint).

So I agree with you about this direction of the
industry.  

I just wanted to point out the common confusion
between a "request" for a transaction and the
execution of the transaction itself.  Mobile devices
are capable of the former today but not the latter.

But as I said I agree with you that this would be a
good thing, and I also believe it's achievable in the
not too distant future.  

Eric

--- Keith Harrison-Broninski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Eric Newcomer wrote:
> 
> >Unless there's a transaction manager on the mobile
> >device (which I haven't heard there is), mobile
> >devices can't participate in a coordinated
> >transaction.  Also clients don't typically
> participate
> >in a coordinated transaction unless there are
> >operations on local data (i.e. data managed on the
> >device).
> >  
> >
> Indeed.  But we need such clients.  The general
> trend of IT is towards 
> lightweight, client-side, P2P applications with no
> barrier to entry and 
> low TCO - though the only such application proposed
> for process 
> management (without which you cannot do /enterprise/
> transaction 
> management) is my own work with humanedj
> <http://www.humanedj.com>.  
> Does anyone know of other such efforts?  If so, I
> would be very 
> interested to hear of them.
> 
> In general, to me it seems that the distributed
> approach of ESBs towards 
> SOA is typical of this trend.  Servers have become
> smaller and smaller 
> (and people have more of them), to the point where
> most server machinery 
> is not that different from client machinery, and the
> same will happen in 
> due course with the software they run.
> 
> -- 
> 
> All the best
> Keith
> 
> http://keith.harrison-broninski.info
> 
> 


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