I just want to say a collective "thanks" to Mark, Michael, Aleksander and Elias. I hadn't seen the Ruple and related information before. I had used blackboards, but I hadn't made the connection for this type of application.
Definitely food for thought... Thanks again, ast On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 17:26, Elias Sinderson wrote: > Aleksander Slominski wrote: > > >Michael Champion wrote: > > > > > >>On 3/15/06, Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>I'd be interested to know what characteristics of Linda caused you to > >>>mention it in the context of enterprise integration though, because > >>>based on my experiences with both TBSs and the Web, I suspect the Web > >>>can provide *at least* those same characteristics. > >>> > >>> > >>The question was not directed to me, but I've been thinking about this > >>for awhile (and FWIW talked about it at XML 2005 > >>http://www.idealliance.org/proceedings/xml05/slides/champion.ppt ). I > >>have a slide on the similarities / differences between the Web and > >>tuple spaces that boils down to a) Web resources are located by their > >>identity, tuples located by value; b) links make the Web work, queries > >>make tuple spaces work; and c) the Web has no intrinsic notion of > >>queries -- search engines are necessary, but not part of the > >>infrastructure whereas querying is fundamental to tuple spaces. > >> > >> > >ATOM Store (ATOM 1.0 + Atom Publishing Protocol aka APP) may be a more > >successful reincarnation of this idea [...] ATOM Store as XML Tuple Spaces > >2.0 :-) > > > > > Yikes, that's surprisingly close to my dissertation topic, although > missing a few crucial details... :-) A brief abstract is posted here, > if interested: > <http://www.commerce.net/events/?post=/2006/04/131600.a684eceee76fc522773286a895bc8436.html> > > Regarding the differences that Michael Champion noted above between > tuplespaces and the web: > a) Yes, of course, however it should be noted that one is simply a > degenerate form of the other, in which URL is the only field matched > against. > b) There is no reason why tuples cannot contain hyperlinks to other > tuples, by GUID or otherwise, within their structure. Indeed, this is a > commonly implemented pattern within tuplespace systems. > c) Agreed, however there has been progress on that front, most recently > the DASL draft prepared by the WebDAV WG, which introduces an extensible > method, SEARCH, to the HTTP protocol stack. Although not defined > explicitly in this draft, the query grammar used with SEARCH could be, > for example, XQuery or similar -- allowing server-side searches of XML > resources within the provenance of the search arbiter. > > > Regards, > Elias > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- Join me in Dubrovnik, Croatia on May 8-10th when I will be speaking at InfoSeCon 2006. For more information, see www.infosecon.org. *************************************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. Access to this email by anyone other than the intended addressee is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the intended recipient, please reply to or forward a copy of this message to the sender and delete the message, any attachments, and any copies thereof from your system. *************************************************************************************************** Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
