A service is a process but a process may not be a business process. Computer enabled business processs should be called applications rather than services. How you interpret the world depends on what you define it. There is no resolution in epitemology when we differ in ontology. Often the case that one does not know one's ontological stance and falls into meaningless arguments easily.
Jerry Z --- Jim Alateras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what about the notion "that a process is a service" > and business process > are exposed as services. How does that fit into your > definition. > > cheers > </jima> > > > > > Keith Harrison-Broninski wrote: > > patrickdlogan wrote: > > > >>>I would interest to know whether people find it > useful to talk about > >>>processes and services as distinct concepts in an > enterprise > >>>architecture sense? Does it pay to make the > distinction? > >>> > >>> > >>First, keep them distinct. > >> > >>Second, define them because one person's > definition of "process" is > >>likely to differ from another's. > >> > >>We may need to make five or six things distinct, > not just one or two. > >> > >>-Patrick > >> > > +1. We've already heard 2 completely different > concept of process, > > haven't we. Ash says, "The business people manage > the processes, while > > the technology people manage the services", while > Gregg says, "multiple > > services live in a single JVM process." > > > > Mind you, this group's attempts at defining > "service" have not been very > > successful to date, so we're just as likely to get > mired down in > > definitions of "process". Myself, I'd go for > simplicity, and stay away > > from IT when thinking about it. Something like: > > > > service = work provided on a contract basis > > process = a collection of related activities > > > > -- > > > > All the best > > Keith > > > > http://keith.harrison-broninski.info > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group > "service-orientated-architecture > > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture>" > > on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/service-orientated-architecture/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
