Let me state up front that I love Jini and JavaSpaces. I think they are
cool and would
be a wonderful platform for SOA and Web Services. However I would not
necessarily
recommend them commercially. I have in the recent past recommended them
technically but they failed on commercial due diligence. The failure
was all about
perceived risk of vendor failure in this space. It was recognised that
the technology
was very good and so it was considered but the commercial risk
assessment meant
that we also had to score it based on our ability to rip and replace
should the need
arise and the skills available for building services using it. It
failed on both points.
Not enough choice. And not enough of a skills pool to draw upon.
I think this is what Sanjiva is really talking about and alas this is
where the herd
risk mentality comes in. If Sun had seen fit to back it a few years ago
then it [Jini/JavaSpaces]
would probably be a more serious player. Shame that they chose not to
do so.
Just my tuppence worth ....
Cheers
Steve T
On 17 Apr 2006, at 20:12, Dan Creswell wrote:
> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > Dan, I'm going to bow out of this debate. I don't think I'll ever
> > convince you that there's anything different about WS-* vs. Jini
> and I'm
> > pretty sure you won't convince me Jini does it all.
> >
>
> Fair enough.
>
> > IMO its not realistic to think that a technology "makes it", or not,
> > purely based on its technical merits. Maybe Jini can indeed do it
> all,
>
> And, I think with my boxer analogy, I was making it clear that I
> wasn't
> suggesting it was purely a technical merit thing?
>
> > but that's irrelevant: does MSFT support it? What about IBM? What
> about
> > Oracle? What about SAP? What about IONA? What about Macromedia? What
> > about a host of other companies? (No, I won't say "What about
> > WSO2?" ;-))
> >
>
> Hmmm, so I just don't get this argument. If SOAP/WS-* is the ultimate
> legacy integration tool, why do I need all these guys to support it?
>
> Isn't the argument supposed to be that even those systems that don't
> support it can still be relatively easily integrated? Or are we
> actually stating (perhaps as the politics comment below suggests) that
> we expect all suppliers of all products to provide support out of the
> box?
>
> Dan.
>
>
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