Indeed.

I had the same experience, as have a few others, using WS-CDL and then
using
html generation and WSDL generation  from the description.

Turned out the documents produced were the greatest immediate value and
enabled
us to drive interfaces and documentation of them from a single source.

On 12 May 2006, at 01:16, Todd Biske wrote:

>  Steve Ross-Talbot wrote:
>
>  > But things have moved on. If we can properly describe a service in
>  > terms of it's externally
>  > observable behavior then we can start to classify services as
> offering
>  > the same behavior
>  > and this way we can understand how one service can be a substitute
> for
>  > another or how
>  > the combination of two or more services can be a substitute for
>  > another. Without a precise
>  > description of the "externally observable behavior" reuse is always
>  > going to be in the world
>  > of fiction rather than fact.
>
>  This reminded me of a blog post I keep meaning to write, extending 
>  upon my discussion of what it means to be a service provider.  I was 
>  working with a colleague recently who was defining some new services, 
>  and this was a first attempt to define the service contract.  What 
>  came out of this, which was somewhat unexpected, was a document that 
>  was much better suited as a design specification for someone building 
>  the service than it was a document for use by a service consumer.  
>  This was something that I hadn't thought about, but made perfect 
>  sense when it happened.  Most designers/developers are used to 
>  creating interface specifications for the purpose of creating an 
>  implementation, not for the purpose of describing the externally 
>  observable behavior, as you put it.  Yet another example of the 
>  culture change that must happen to adopt SOA in the enterprise...
>
>  -tb
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