Perhaps Mr. Natis is discreetly monitoring this Group….

 

Gervas

 


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Radovan Janecek
Sent: 24 May 2006 12:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: "SOA 2.0" - Just what we need, a new buzzword

 

Very true and very good!

On 5/24/06, Anne Thomas Manes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, at least Yefim is no longer saying that SOA and EDA are different things.

Anne

On 5/23/06, Gervas Douglas < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Here is an extract from another article on SOA 2.0:

<<"SOA 2.0 is the term that we're using to talk about the combination
of service-oriented architecture and event-driven architecture," said
Steve Harris, vice president of Oracle Fusion middleware.

The term, SOA 2.0, also is being championed by Gartner's Yefim Natis,
a vice president and distinguished analyst at the firm. Contacted by
telephone, Natis stressed event-driven architecture as the main
distinction between SOA 2.0 and the first, client-server driven
iteration of SOA.

"SOA as we know it today deals with a client-server relationship
between software modules," with services being subroutines serving
clients, Natis said. "However, not all business processes and software
topologies fit this model."

With SOA 2.0, an event-driven architecture is deployed in which
software modules are related to business components, and alerts and
event notifications are featured. The initial SOA concept has not been
event-driven but instead has featured direct calls from one piece of
software to another in a client-server process, Natis said. SOA
implementations have focused on Web services and subordinates to
clients, he said.

SOA 2.0 applications could include order processing systems, hospital
admissions processes or bank transactions, Natis said.

Oracle is positioning its Fusion middleware components as a solution
for SOA. Oracle sees the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 5 (Java EE
5), SOA 2.0 and Web 2.0 coming together to produce a more productive
application platform, said Thomas Kurian, Oracle senior vice
president. Web 2.0 features more dynamic clients.>>

You can read this in full at:

<http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/05/17/78420_HNsoa20_1.html?source=NLC-SOA2006-05-25 >

Gervas




--- In [email protected], oS
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>
> Hello
> I am looking for Web services and Middleware comparisons. does any
one know
> any article on this. please let me know
> thanks
>
>
> On 5/18/06, Stuart Charlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Actually, I recall them saying that they coined the term in a 1994
> > Gartner report.... heh.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ron Schmelzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:57:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: [service-orientated-architecture] "SOA 2.0" - Just
what we
> > need, a new buzzword
> >
> > Buzzword bingo! I win ;)
> >
> > Gartner's view of SOA "1.0" is so ridiculous that it's no wonder they
> > believe that a new term needs to be coined to define exactly what
we meant
> > by SOA in the first place. SOA as "client-server"? Does anyone really
> > believe in that vision of SOA?
> >
> > Ignore them. Please. They believe that SOA was "invented" within
the past
> > few years. We all know better.
> >
> > People: use your own minds.
> >
> > Ron
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