On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 15:32, Gervas Douglas wrote:
> This was sent to me in an e-mail newsletter:
>
> (I am sure that you will appreciate his remarks about analysts)
> Gervas
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>  Editor's Note: Version Control

What bugs me about all this silliness is that people actually pay
attention to it (and I guess I'm guilty of this as well since I'm
writing this reply).  However, what I think this latest hypefest does
legitimately illustrate is how confused many people are about what SOA
really is.

Let's face it, most people in the world don't read this list, or any
other of the open forums that have been trying to nail down some sort of
definition framework for SOA.  Unfortunately, as I think I mentioned
here before, this isn't necessarily their fault--they're busy people,
but it means that they get their version of the truth from industry
magazines, blogs and industry analysts (if there is a "truth" here and
not just context-dependent perceptions of the same "reality").  As the
cropped article pointed out, there is just as broad a spectrum of ethics
in analysts as there is in lawyers.

I write this as someone who attended a conference on SOA for
E-Government last week with people from major systems integrators,
industry consortia (OMG, OASIS, etc.), vendors, government CXO's and
some other really smart people (obviously not me :).  However, one thing
that was clear is that there's still a long way to go before we as an
industry really understand what SOA is all about and how it can make a
difference.  I know there are a lot of people with varying degrees of
this understanding on this list, but, as I said, not everyone who is
being bombarded by SOA hype has time to consider the more fundamental
issues as carefully as they should.  If they did, this whole "SOA 2.0"
thing wouldn't have even been suggested because there wouldn't have been
enough people to believe it was worth talking about.

While I agree with whoever said that things like "Web 2.0" (oops, will I
get sued for that, Mr. O'Reilly?  I used "Web 2.0" and "Conference" in
the same email...), "WOA" and "AJAX" are useful as concepts so that
people can understand they're really talking about the same thing, most
of these aren't "words of making".  The concepts existed, people just
didn't agree what to call them.  From the definition of SOA point of
view, as Anne mentioned, it's an architectural style, so Mark's right
saying versioning it is silly.  However, we're (the Reach project) some
of the people who have been doing event-driven SOA since 2001 because it
makes sense, and it scales and, oh, yeah, it's loosely coupled. :)

What I think would be nice is that some of the vendor-agnostic, core
concepts that all of us agree on could be held up and used to deflect
some of the hype momentum we're in right now.  I realize this is
somewhat amusing since on any given day here, there's wide and
passionate disagreement about fundamentals, but, as participants in the
industry who actually may know better, aren't we obligated to try and
sort out some of this confusion?  One, two, ten or 100 individuals won't
do it, it needs to be a community effort.

ast
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