patrickdlogan wrote:

> ... you need to carefully
> follow Anne Thomas Manes' advice when she writes...
>
> "The largest impediment to SOA is culture, not technology. You can
> do SOA with any type of technology, and you should choose a
> technology based on the requirements of each particular
> system. SOA is about the design of the system, not the selection
> of technologies."
>
I couldn't agree more with this statement.  The more I think about  
SOA adoption and the roadblocks that are in the way, the closer and  
closer I get to the business/IT relationship.  Without improvements  
in the way this works, SOA (or probably any other strategic IT-driven  
effort) won't be successful.  I'll also add that the business/IT  
relationship is probably step two in the culture change.  The  
internal relationships within IT are step 1.  If IT can't work  
together, it will  be an even greater challenge to work with the  
business departments.

I've done a lot of work in user centered design and usability in the  
past, and the same thing held true there.  The best user interfaces  
were ones that came about when the end users and the development  
group worked together as a team- not as customer and provider.  I  
firmly believe the same thing holds true with SOA.  Without the  
business departments and the IT department working as a cohesive  
team, the chances of success are slim.   It can be done, but you have  
to have some very business-savvy IT employees.  This echoes some of  
the points that Dan made:

 > If an enterprise _really_ wanted to achieve more for less it would  
need
 > to ensure that it had a culture that co-operated together, discussed,
 > compromised and negotiated with complete honesty. Something that just
 > isn't going to happen because of politics.

I'm much more of an optimist about this.  Perhaps I don't have as  
many battle scars.  He did go on to point out that success does breed  
more success, so I'm always on the lookout for that successful path,  
dodging roadblocks along the way.
> For business alignment, I would recommend reading "The Squandered
> Computer" by Paul Strassmann.
Thanks!  I've read the "doomed" book, and also Services Blueprint.  I  
look forward to adding it to my library.






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