Anne,

On Jun 30, 2006, at 4:31 AM, Anne Thomas Manes wrote:

> But JMS is not a transport -- it's a programming API.
>
Hmm, maybe this gets it across:

*** HTTP is a programming API ***

Jan




> (It's just that each JMS implementation comes with a proprietary  
> transport.)
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 6/29/06, Stanley Stanev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you can always abstract the transport even if you use the languages  
> you just described just to be able to change transports without any  
> problems, so you do not care if it is JMS or not
>
> you introduce an abstraction layer that decouples you from the  
> transpiort
>
> you still want to go SOAP, no matter what the transport is
>
> thanks,
> Stanley Stanev
>
>
>
> Anne Thomas Manes wrote:
>> JMS isn't much use if you're building applications in C#, VB,  
>> COBOL, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, JavaScript, etc.
>>
>> Language dependency is an anathma to SOA.
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> On 6/28/06, patrickdlogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>> > the JMS requirement was only there because the initial proponents
>> > happened to be JMS vendors.
>>
>> There are reasons for this that should be considered.
>>
>> I know it is an API and not a priori "interoperable" (in all the
>> dimensions of that term), but many implementations are interoperable
>> in various ways. And it is fairly simple yet expressive.
>>
>> I would suggest there are a number of vendors of JMS due to its
>> simplicity (it can be implemented and used without a ton of effort)
>> and expressiveness (it can be used successfully, widely). For all of
>> these reasons it seems something like JMS should be the core of an
>> ESB.
>>
>> -Patrick
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------
> Stanimir Stanev (Stanley)
> Senior Java Developer
> www.stanev.com ----------------------------------------
>
>
>
> 





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