On 11/07/06, Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  > In the larger community, I've seen feedback on the OASIS SOA RM [1] fall 
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>  > 2) Or folks turning on the bozo bit on the doc as a verbose and overblown 
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>  > Unfortunately in a majority of the cases, view #1 is usually from folks 
> who have been involved in the OASIS process and/or related standards orgs and 
> not from the Platform Vendor or the End-User Implementer community.
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>  Yup.  It's well written, concise, has nice diagrams (hi Frank), but in
>  the end it just doesn't provide much in the way of concrete advice.
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>  Would somebody *please* just describe the architectural constraints
>  already?  Yes, I know that would enable us to say "No, that isn't
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Which is what the Reference Architecture (up next) will hopefully do.
For me what the RM is good at is defining the Ts&Cs of SOA, it gives
us the ability to say "that is SOA" or "that isn't SOA" and stops
pointless bickering about the basic definitions and architectural
pattern.

100% agree that there is more work to be done, but at least now we can
claim to be building on solid foundations rather than a continual
series of vendor definitions based on the products they are selling
this month.





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