From: Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 11:00:00 AM
Subject: [service-orientated-architecture] Re: Platforms for SOA
I agree Dan.
For the same reason, I think it is unappropriate to state that Java EE
is not adequate or too bloated as a SOA "platform". In some cases, it
makes really sense.
I am not confortable with the political aspects of the Java EE or not
battle going on.
- Sun controls Java EE and that it is not accepted by some vendors
- IBM, BEA, Oracle and others are developing SCA and SDO and are
opposing it to Java EE for SOAs
I am really cautious when I hear that one platform is better than the
other because I have more the impression of being in the middle of a
political game with commercial interests than a technical workshop.
Am I the only end-user here?
The funny part is that the result of this might be new frameworks or
tools but in most of the cases, these frameworks will come in addition
of JEE. Is that really a simplification?
For example Spring is largely used inside JEE application
servers...
Now I must say also that I hate the Java EE5 Web service stack. I
think JAXB was the worst thing to use because static code generation
from an XML schema is really not flexible over time and across
versions of the same service interface :-)
Robin
--- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com, Dan Creswell
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> Now, this is a really interesting question.... .
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> Robin wrote:
> > But then the question is: What's the best platform for developping
> > services in Java?
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> For me the best platform is what suits my design/customer requirements
> best. It's a fluid thing that changes all the time.
>
> What requirements do you have of your platform? Is it to use
"standard"
> API's so you can switch it for
something else (when it is no longer the
> best)?
>
> Selecting one platform makes some things easier and others harder which
> is, for me, the reason why there is no best platform unless everything
> you do is always the same. Ultimately, this is why we have "legacy" -
> the best choice at one time is no longer the best later.
>
> Trying to select the best leads to dry theoretical, unresolved debate.
> Discussion of tradeoffs/suitabili ty for purpose in some specific
> scenarios is more informative. Someone actually did something like
that
> for web frameworks recently.... ..
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> > Is Spring a viable alternative?
> >
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> Is Spring a platform? Is Weblogic a platform? I think they are
> containers offering a set of API's and a deployment model (with Spring
> arguably being significantly more configurable) . But are containers
the
> only
way to do things? Are they always what you want?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dan.
>
> > Robin
> > --- In service-orientated- architecture@ yahoogroups. com, "Anne Thomas
> > Manes" <atmanes@> wrote:
> >> Please note that the report cited in this article is talking about
> > Java EE,
> >> not about Java in general. Burton Group predicts that Java will
remain
> >> strong and healthy for a long time.
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